Good point. I think this will also hurt Dish for adding new customers. One thing I always do is see which channels you get when I look into getting a new service from cable/dbs. In the short run... lifetime will lose money over this.. garannteed. But Disney owned content is widespread and they have alot of muscle.. too much muscle. Disney will retaliate in future contracts... I just hope the feds step in when they do. This story to be continued and dish has a uphill battle ahead.Stargazer said:
Lifetime Television Severs Talks with Dish Network
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Just to remind everyone that Disney is NOT the controlling partner in this channel. Hearst is. Hearst is the one doing the dealing and they left Lifetime hanging in the wind when they signed a carriage agreement for the broadcast stations with Dish.
See ya
Tony
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Tony
Listen at the end of the day if revenues are not up at the Lifetime division heads are going to roll. New management will come in and if the channel is still not on E* a contract will be negotiated.
Hearst programming looked at the odds and decided not to get involved with this dispute. They did not tie in their local channels into a Lifetime renewal contract and decided to get a contract individually.
Hearst has given Lifetime enough rope to hang themselves. Lifetime will have to rectify the E* situation soon because at the end of the day earnings will be down. A lot is riding on this chess match and without the local channels, the public outcry will be less than previous battles like the Viacom dispute where channels like CBS were pulled.
Hearst programming looked at the odds and decided not to get involved with this dispute. They did not tie in their local channels into a Lifetime renewal contract and decided to get a contract individually.
Hearst has given Lifetime enough rope to hang themselves. Lifetime will have to rectify the E* situation soon because at the end of the day earnings will be down. A lot is riding on this chess match and without the local channels, the public outcry will be less than previous battles like the Viacom dispute where channels like CBS were pulled.
You think it is bad now..... wait until 2/1 hits and everyone tries to jump the line to get their 211/622s first....
That may be.. but I don't see that happening for a couple of years. Now that E* has allocated LMN funds for Oxygen.. I don't see that slot being filled by LMN anymore.. I still think that Lifetime channel itself could fill in the remaining slot.. but it looks like these guys are not going to the table for quite awhile. We got some egos cooking away at this point. Dish announced that the remaining slot will be filled by the end of the month.. thats not long away. I don't see Lifetime coming back within a week either.. I think Charlie is structuring his prices for the next couple of years.. The AT60 is already frozen for two years. The point is.. I don't see room for Lifetime now for at least two more years. At that point.. Dish may pay more to get those channels back or some kind of compromise will be made. But I don't see these channels coming back for a long time now. Unless for some reason a half million subs unplug Dish but I highly doubt that will happen. In the coming months, we will see how much Dish will suffer over this and how much Lifetime will as well.. I think its a given that Lifetime will lose immediately in the shortrun... They have no choice but to discount advertisers and they have lost millions of carriage fees effective Jan 1.rtt2 said:
The thing that does not make sense is Lifetimes statement that they would not be able to provide good content if they excepted Dishes offer. But now that they get ZERO... zilch... nada.. what does that do to them? And all along we never really know what lifetime wanted when you add that third channel they were trying to force feed us. In my mind.. this whole mess just proves that the whole bundle model is badly broken. I don't really see this getting any better. I think more channels will get locked into others.. and content providers will prevail in the end.. because thats the trend.. just look at the rate hikes in the last 10 years.. The content providers are winning.. big time. And the only constant variable to this whole mess is that our rates go up. Eventually, prices will get so out of hand, that subs start to disconnect.. I see that happening already with cable.. If that trend continues we may see content carriages stablelize.. But I think it will take an act of congress to put a lid on it.
samatha6 said:
Count on it.
You can also count on the industry reminding everyone that the cost per channel has actually gone down - so it's a good thing!
See this thread....
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=53764
For the latest wrinkle in this battle.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=53764
For the latest wrinkle in this battle.
