I need info on new hopper plus

Wouldn't that depend on if the Hopper Plus comes with HDMI passthrough? Comparing a high end AVR's capabilities to the Hopper Plus is a bit of a stretch.
That passthrough, and I have a Denon that does just that, is HDMI to HDMI, not USB to HDMI.
Right, but Scott keeps making it sound like it is an HDMI to HDMI passthrough, in addition to the USB cable that provides the Android streaming integration. Scott has more actual experience with these, so I trust Scott's statements until they can be proven otherwise. Do you have one of these Hopper+'s yet, Bobby? I still want to see Scott's pictures, though.
 
Right, but Scott keeps making it sound like it is an HDMI to HDMI passthrough, in addition to the USB cable that provides the Android streaming integration. Scott has more actual experience with these, so I trust Scott's statements until they can be proven otherwise. Do you have one of these Hopper+'s yet, Bobby? I still want to see Scott's pictures, though.
You can see internal and external photos and a lot more on the FCC's site of all the submitted info from Dish.
 
You can see internal and external photos and a lot more on the FCC's site of all the submitted info from Dish.
Thanks! Okay, Scott's statements are weirdly worded then, unless these have been redesigned since then. Or maybe there is another accessory for the accessory that adds an HDMI input for the passthrough? (But hey, that's just a theory... a conspiracy theory!)
 
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Thanks! Okay, Scott's statements are weirdly worded then, unless these have been redesigned since then. Or maybe there is another accessory for the accessory that adds an HDMI input for the passthrough? (But hey, that's just a theory... a conspiracy theory!)
Not sure what the photos do for you but here is my Hopper Plus. As far as accessories the only thing mine came with is a power cord and USB-A to USB-C cable.
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Right, but Scott keeps making it sound like it is an HDMI to HDMI passthrough, in addition to the USB cable that provides the Android streaming integration. Scott has more actual experience with these, so I trust Scott's statements until they can be proven otherwise. Do you have one of these Hopper+'s yet, Bobby? I still want to see Scott's pictures, though.
I think Scott made those references while describing the wiring involved. There seems to be only one HDMI port and that is an output to a monitir.
 
I think Scott made those references while describing the wiring involved. There seems to be only one HDMI port and that is an output to a monitir.
Yes, that is what made it so confusing, especially this line:
...into the Hopper 3 (and the HDMI that is in there now which is connected to the Hopper plus must be unplugged.)...
This makes it seem like there is an HDMI connecting the Hopper 3 to the Hopper+, which does not seem possible based on the available pictures. That is why I was wanting to see Scott's pictures of the wiring, to see how this is hooked up, or what Scott was talking about.
 
I am not too good with wording. See if this makes better since.

One HDMI cable from Hopper+ attached to TV HDMI #1 input.
A second HDMI cable from Hopper HDMI output attached to TV HDMI #2 input.
Keep both HDMI cables attached.
To go from operational Hopper+ setup to just the Hopper operation:
1. In TV settings from HDMI Hopper+ HDMI input #1, select Hopper input #2.
2. Unplug the Hopper+ USB cable.
3. Reboot the Hopper.
This would make things a little faster if you have both HDMI cables attached.
I'm sure after this quoted post, Scott answered, but the HDMI Out on the Hopper is disabled when the Plus is added making the HDMI out on the Plus the lonely one that's usable
 
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I'm sure after this quoted post, Scott answered, but the HDMI Out on the Hopper is disables when the Plus is added making the HDMI out on the Plus the lonely one that's usable
Right, but the discussion now is about unplugging the Plus from the electrical outlet (or otherwise shutting off its power). That should automatically re-enable the HDMI Out (no need to specify since there is no HDMI In) on the Hopper, once the Hopper resets, so there is no need to swap out any cables.

Dish isn't allowing Joey 4's or WiFi Joey 4's without the Plus at this time.
One more day to go, maybe?
 
Right, but the discussion now is about unplugging the Plus from the electrical outlet (or otherwise shutting off its power). That should automatically re-enable the HDMI Out (no need to specify since there is no HDMI In) on the Hopper, once the Hopper resets, so there is no need to swap out any cables.


One more day to go, maybe?
I wouldn’t hold my breath. When the Joey 3 came out, it was that just automatically added to new installs. You have to remember that when these come out, they are limited in the number that they have available.
 
Dish is not forcing this, but they are leaving out known information and of course anyone on the phone will have no clue.

And they say multi-view is “coming soon.” I bet it never comes.
The MultiView you want is not coming soon. However there is a different multiview
I think Scott made those references while describing the wiring involved. There seems to be only one HDMI port and that is an output to a monitir.
My description is off. I have been explaining it all wrong. That is my fault. Must have been thinking of my Revue unit.

There is only one HDMI on the Hopper Plus. All data is sent to the Hopper Plus over the USB And the HDMI out goes to the TV. There is no passthrough. I appologize for the brain fart. Been going through a lot at work this week.
 
I wouldn’t hold my breath. When the Joey 3 came out, it was that just automatically added to new installs. You have to remember that when these come out, they are limited in the number that they have available.
Well then, you would think that allowing us to get the Joeys without the Hopper Plus would free up more of those scarce Hopper+'s for other new single-Hopper installs. Everyone wins.
 
Well then, you would think that allowing us to get the Joeys without the Hopper Plus would free up more of those scarce Hopper+'s for other new single-Hopper installs. Everyone wins.
Joeys are in limited supply. As is the Plus. If every time new equipment came out, Dish started just arbitrarily putting it in peoples houses, I would never see a Super Joey or a Joey 2 and I see a Super Joey at least once a week. Joey 2’s get installed every day. Dish doesn’t make money by putting new equipment out in the field. They make money by putting older, refurbish equipment out in the field which is already paid for itself, multiple times in many cases. There is a reason why I routinely install a Hopper 2000. And it’s not just because those are the best choice to give people with bad credit.
 
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If every time new equipment came out, Dish started just arbitrarily putting it in peoples houses...
That is exactly what your earlier post made it sound like they are doing:
When the Joey 3 came out, it was that just automatically added to new installs.
Now, if you meant to say, "...it was not just automatically added to new installs," then I apologize, but that is not the way it read.

Dish doesn’t make money by putting new equipment out in the field. They make money by putting older, refurbish equipment out in the field which is already paid for itself, multiple times in many cases.
I am not saying to just randomly put the new equipment in people's homes, nor to automatically give it to all new customers. I am saying to give it to existing customers who specifically ask for the new equipment. Then, existing customer upgrades can free up more of that older, refurbished equipment for Dish to make money on, by installing it again in new customers' homes. Make the newbies wait their turn.
 
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This makes it seem like there is an HDMI connecting the Hopper 3 to the Hopper+, which does not seem possible based on the available pictures.
It does.
My description is off. I have been explaining it all wrong. That is my fault. Must have been thinking of my Revue unit.
You sure had us confused!

Yeah, the Logitech Review had an HDMI in as well as out. When watching my 722, it did a passthrough. But turning it off and on resulted in a very loud popping noise, so I unplugged the 722 from there and used it standalone.

This was the only unit that I ever used with Android 3 on it. IIRC Google never upgraded the O/S before going on to 4. :crying My daughter used it to play a few games before she got bored. Neither of us ever used it again and eventually donated it to the Goodwill.
 

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