How high is 61.5's elevation angle?

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Cincinnati (Maineville), OH
Yeah, I know, I have to really calculate this myself. But, compared to the other three major satellites (110/119/129), what's the elevation of 61.5 for the eastern Midwest (e.g. Cincinnati area)?

I'm in a bottom-floor condo, and have a bad feeling that 61.5's position is essentially looking straight into the building. And I doubt I'm going to get it unless the satellite can look straight up. :D
 
THANK YOU GREG!!! You have no idea how much I was looking for that URL. I used that when I originally installed E* a few months back, but then lost it.

61.5's definitely a no-go for me. It's literally looking into my living room. :(
 
HD local's are supposed to be available in April for me and I used it just last week to check my visiibility to 61.5. Glad I could help.
 
You know you can put your zipcode in any dish receiver, choose dish300 and select 61.5 and it will tell you all the numbers.
 
Yes, I know Pepper. I can do that at any other satellite pointing site also. But dishpointer shows you visually on the map, where I can visualize, check building corner clearances, etc.

Hemi, yup, 61.5 is looking in my living room. My patio door faces westward.
 
For me, to see 61.5 I have to look through my neighbor's giant oak tree. This eastern arc business depresses me. What it does sounds wonderful. Where it does it stinks.
 
yeah, if we have to start pointing dishes in that direction to get TV then I am in trouble. nothing but tall trees in that direction for me and i dont think i can get high enough on the house to get over them at a 36 degree elevation. i have been with E* for 12 years and it would really suck to have to do something different because of this.
 
denisincalif said:
For me, to see 61.5 I have to look through my neighbor's giant oak tree. This eastern arc business depresses me. What it does sounds wonderful. Where it does it stinks.
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You live in the west.

You won't be using the eastern arc anyway.

Eastern arc is mostly for spotbeaming HD locals to cities east of the Mississippi (with a few notable exceptions (Austin, TX???)) plus MPEG4 HD and SD.

The western arc will be up later to do the same thing for the west.
 
Jim5506 said:
You live in the west.

You won't be using the eastern arc anyway.

Eastern arc is mostly for spotbeaming HD locals to cities east of the Mississippi (with a few notable exceptions (Austin, TX???)) plus MPEG4 HD and SD.

The western arc will be up later to do the same thing for the west.
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Can I infer that us left coasters will get the west coast feeds of those channels that offer one?
 
For what it's worth, 61.5' is higher than the satellites you're likely looking at today. I looked into this last week myself and I think I'll be okay if they need to re-point me in the future to look "east". Now, what is the elevation of the other (2), 72.5 and 77 (??).
 
hall said:
For what it's worth, 61.5' is higher than the satellites you're likely looking at today. I looked into this last week myself and I think I'll be okay if they need to re-point me in the future to look "east". Now, what is the elevation of the other (2), 72.5 and 77 (??).
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72.5 is 11 degrees west of 61.5; and 77 is 4.5 degrees further west. The "spread" is a total of 15.5 degrees (vs. 19 degree spread for dish 1000).

61.5 is the lowest in the sky, 77 is highest, and would be approximately 8 degrees higher elevation than 61.5 - from a mid-continent point of view.

From a St. Louis perspective, the dish would very closely resemble the dishes used now (maybe even the same dishes), would use very similar elevation, but it would face SE and the skew would be opposite of a dish 1000.
 
I would like to point out one thing. The apparent angle of the Dish reflector to the ground is NOT the angle the Microwave signal is hitting the dish from.

All DBS Dishs are offset by about 22 degrees. So the signal coming into the Dish is about 22 degrees higher than the apparent angle of the Dish's reflector. This is why a lot of Dish's seem to pointed directly at Trees, or structures, and still function properly.

Case in point my parents 61.5 dish is mounted on a railing on their back deck, which looks like it is pointed directly at the lowest part of their Roof, and it works just fine, although when they got heavy snow this winter it piled up enough on the roof to obscure their LOS to 61.5.

John
 
Others may not be, but I'm aware that the dish doesn't "see" directly where it appears to be "looking". My point is, if one can "see" 110, 119, and 129' today, odds are very favorable that they'll be able to see 61.5 and it's "siblings" since they're higher. In most cases, people may have trees or a building/house they have to see over (I do). At least here they don't have to have their dishes aimed *lower*.
 
This may not be the correct forum, but I haven't had much luck finding a topic about...

My current setup (Zip 27101) is a 1000.2 dish (pointed at 110,119,129) with two 722s. When the locals go HD, HOW will I get them?

Thanks for the info,
tim
 
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