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How desperate is the government for Barry Bonds??!!
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Dude...not a catfaight at all. She has her opinion and I have mine.
I ahve no issues other peoples opinions. I just don't bow to her the moment she makes a statement....plain and simple.
Well unless I'm reading this wrong, Sandra and HD is saying players take "Rods" to hit more home runs.
If that was the case, then why did Clemens and Pettitte take them? Pitchers in AL don't hit, so it would seem worthless to me to take the chance, unless players take them to play longer into the season so they can get better numbers, and make more money.
I'm not saying "Roids" didn't help Bonds, McGuire and others hit home runs, but those weren't the only reason.
Remember when the balls were juiced, plus it's easier to hit a home un out of Coors Field or PNC Park then it was to hit it out of the old cookie cutter parks.
The Rockies put baseballs in a humidor, so there isn't as many home runs anymore. Or maybe it's because they are tougher on Roids.
If that was the case, then why did Clemens and Pettitte take them? Pitchers in AL don't hit, so it would seem worthless to me to take the chance, unless players take them to play longer into the season so they can get better numbers, and make more money.
I'm not saying "Roids" didn't help Bonds, McGuire and others hit home runs, but those weren't the only reason.
Remember when the balls were juiced, plus it's easier to hit a home un out of Coors Field or PNC Park then it was to hit it out of the old cookie cutter parks.
The Rockies put baseballs in a humidor, so there isn't as many home runs anymore. Or maybe it's because they are tougher on Roids.
Happy 75th birthday to whom many consider to still be the real homerun king!! @party
Happy birthday, Hammer! Aaron celebrates 75 years
Happy birthday, Hammer! Aaron celebrates 75 years
Ok...let me put it to you this way. IN MY OPINION, that is TOO much of a "black and white" approach. When it comes to baseball....is it helping you see the ball better? NO! Is it gonna help you run the bases better? NO! Is it gonna help you hit for better average? NO! Will you throw MORE strikes ? NO! Will you be able to win more games just by taking them ? NO!! It is NOT gonna make you a better baseball player....STRONGER yes....better NO!!
Better?
Let's reword the question then. Would Bonds have hit 73 HR's at age 37 without the use of steroids? Be careful how you answer this, because everyone else here already knows the answer.
Well unless I'm reading this wrong, Sandra and HD is saying players take "Rods" to hit more home runs.
If that was the case, then why did Clemens and Pettitte take them? Pitchers in AL don't hit, so it would seem worthless to me to take the chance, unless players take them to play longer into the season so they can get better numbers, and make more money.
I'm not saying "Roids" didn't help Bonds, McGuire and others hit home runs, but those weren't the only reason.
Remember when the balls were juiced, plus it's easier to hit a home un out of Coors Field or PNC Park then it was to hit it out of the old cookie cutter parks.
The Rockies put baseballs in a humidor, so there isn't as many home runs anymore. Or maybe it's because they are tougher on Roids.
You must have missed the post where I said steroids help players get stronger for a long period of time. They don't necessarily make you stronger on their own, of course, they help recovery so you can work out harder and longer and recover quicker.
They helped players like Caminiti, Canseco, Bonds, McGuire, etc., hit home runs, because they're home run hitters. It doesn' mean you or I or HD or salsa can take steroids (and work out a lot) and suddenly be able to hit home runs off major league pitching. You have to have the talent to be able to do it in the first place.
How does it help pitchers? I suppose if you apply the working out theory to pitchers it will help them as well, help their whole body get stronger, help their arm recover more quickly, etc. I doubt Clemens, Pettitte, and any other pitcher who did steroids did it for fun. Major league players know exactly how steroids will help them perform better.
Sports Illustrated did articles about the amazing workout regimen of Roger Clemens, then told how he added Pettitte as a workout partner. Now we know how they were able to sustain such an amazing regimen when Clemens was in his 40's.
Sandra
I doubt he would have hit them without the "clear"....but does 'roids make you a better ball player?? NO. It may make you stronger...but it does not make you BETTER. HDD states that it makes you better....YEAH, it will improve your chances to hit home runs...but power is generated with quick HANDS and strong wrists...not just big arms and strong shoulders....because if that was the case, boney Ted Williams would have never hit 525+ home runs.
Didn't help Caminiti at all because he hit over 30 ONCE and over 20 homer 4 times in his 14 year career. Like I said over and over, they do for monetary reasons...the lobger you play competitively, the more you make....period, end of story.
Them big arms don't hurt. Aaron wasn't particularly big either. I've seen a lot of guys with great eyes, wrists, bat speed, etc... who could hit, but couldn't reach the fences, though. Being strong does help. BTW, didn't we discuss all this just 6 months ago or so?
One more time for the slow.......
I know damn well steroids alone don't create a better ball player. Certain skill sets (hand/eye coordination, bat speed, etc are required to make it to the Bigs in the first place). I've said this a million times!
However, introduce 'Roids to an existing power hitter who was previously a "warning track hitter" and they are now a "home run hitter". Bigger muscles created by these performance enhancers are attributed to the spike in home runs. Bigger muscles allow them to hit more home runs. How else do you explain the spike in numbers during this era by power hitters?
Salsa, you tend to be dancing around the word "better". How you define it personally is up to you.
BTW, this whole argument started because of this very first statement by you claiming that Roids do nothing to enhance performance. By saying this, you're saying that 'Roids did not enhance a players ability to hit home runs!
I know damn well steroids alone don't create a better ball player. Certain skill sets (hand/eye coordination, bat speed, etc are required to make it to the Bigs in the first place). I've said this a million times!
However, introduce 'Roids to an existing power hitter who was previously a "warning track hitter" and they are now a "home run hitter". Bigger muscles created by these performance enhancers are attributed to the spike in home runs. Bigger muscles allow them to hit more home runs. How else do you explain the spike in numbers during this era by power hitters?
Salsa, you tend to be dancing around the word "better". How you define it personally is up to you.
BTW, this whole argument started because of this very first statement by you claiming that Roids do nothing to enhance performance. By saying this, you're saying that 'Roids did not enhance a players ability to hit home runs!
Salsa has said many statements on this subject in the last few pages to contradict his original stance. He's become very hard to follow. Reference his first post as I quoted in my last post.......
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