Good Friday Shocker - MASN Added to E*

[howie14]

I don't think that is correct. When each provider negotiated a rate with a station the coverage area is one of the things that affects the rte. This could be a mistake or there may be an odd coverage pattern here. we do not know.

I'm not one of those affected by the zip code shutout, but I find it hard to believe that MASN would have settled for something less than the same viewing area as CSN has.

BTW, I received a non-responsive response to my email. I've emailed back asking that my message be forwarded above the CSR level.

 

[jrbdmb]

I'm not one of those affected by the zip code shutout, but I find it hard to believe that MASN would have settled for something less than the same viewing area as CSN has.

Don't know about MASN specifically, but this type of thing happens a lot. For instance, all of CT is "claimed" by the Mets, but unless thngs have changed recently only those in eastern CT get the Mets with Dish Network. Las Vegas is a often-quoted example where six MLB teams claim the town in their home area but Dish has only paid to show two teams there. Iowa is claimed by six clubs, but I'm pretty sure that Iowa subs don't see six teams with or without the Multi-Sport.

So I'm not too surprised if Dish decided to save a few $$$ by not providing MASN to a part of south-central PA they they figured was more interested in Pittsburgh sports than Washington / Baltimore sports.

 

[wolfjc]

I'm not one of those affected by the zip code shutout, but I find it hard to believe that MASN would have settled for something less than the same viewing area as CSN has.

BTW, I received a non-responsive response to my email. I've emailed back asking that my message be forwarded above the CSR level.

I is my understanding that the blackout rules are up to the various sports teams and the TV (FSN) stations and NOT Dish nor Direct.
When I first got the sports package I could not see the Columbus Blue Jackets and I could see the Pittsburgh hockey team. So I called up the FSN Cincinnati station and they fixed the problem. I could the then see the Columbus team and not see the Pittsburgh team.
So I don't see where it is E*'s or D*s problem as they don't control the blackout rules.

 

[howie14]

So I'm not too surprised if Dish decided to save a few $$$ by not providing MASN to a part of south-central PA they they figured was more interested in Pittsburgh sports than Washington / Baltimore sports.

I've no doubt that could be true, but the case of the guy posting over at DBSTALK who isn't getting MASN in a VA Zip Code 30 miles south of DC right on I-95 makes me think either DISH or MASN has made a huge error.

When you're thinking DC metro area that's a suburb, for gosh sakes.

 

[hallrk]

I've no doubt that could be true, but the case of the guy posting over at DBSTALK who isn't getting MASN in a VA Zip Code 30 miles south of DC right on I-95 makes me think either DISH or MASN has made a huge error.

When you're thinking DC metro area that's a suburb, for gosh sakes.

I live 30 miles to the west of DC in Loudoun County and am getting MASN. So that has to be a mistake with someone living in Dumfries and not getting it.

 

[howie14]

I live 30 miles to the west of DC in Loudoun County and am getting MASN. So that has to be a mistake with someone living in Dumfries and not getting it.

I saw on another website that some CSRs are telling subscribers that the migration to MASN is incomplete.

I suggest that those in the affected zones who care keep pestering DISH. Of course, we may find out that some of those areas were indeed left out intentionally.

 

[Derwin0]

I saw on another website that some CSRs are telling subscribers that the migration to MASN is incomplete.

I suggest that those in the affected zones who care keep pestering DISH. Of course, we may find out that some of those areas were indeed left out intentionally.

per the address checker, York PA got MASN added.
I got this when typing in my house's address:

Station
Mid-Atlantic Sports Netowrk (MASN) CCSN

Unfortunatley when typing in my Chambersburg address, I still only get:
Station
CCSN

 

[howie14]

I is my understanding that the blackout rules are up to the various sports teams and the TV (FSN) stations and NOT Dish nor Direct.
When I first got the sports package I could not see the Columbus Blue Jackets and I could see the Pittsburgh hockey team. So I called up the FSN Cincinnati station and they fixed the problem. I could the then see the Columbus team and not see the Pittsburgh team.
So I don't see where it is E*'s or D*s problem as they don't control the blackout rules.

No they don't control the blackout rules, but they certainly could potentially misapply them. I initially suspected they had done just that, although I now think they are just really slow in getting MASN to everybody.

I questioned the the recent blackout of most of Baltimore the night the Nats were on Channel 20, since 20 isn't available as a local to Baltimore subscribers and someone from MASN has been in touch with me to determine if DISH made a mistake that night.

 

[Peter Parker]

while I don't know if the blackouts are intentional or accidental I agree with those advising calls to MASN and DISH. it can't hurt and even if the blackouts are intentiona it might cause the two parties to reconsider.

having said that the ability to watch either of tehse teams isa mixed blessing.

 

[howie14]

...having said that the ability to watch either of tehse teams isa mixed blessing.

Well, I still get geeky about being able to watch two local teams every night anyway. Eventually, the novelty will wear off.

 

[Kaydigi]

Well, I still get geeky about being able to watch two local teams every night anyway. Eventually, the novelty will wear off.

I hear you, it wore off the first day. The only thing that would keep my mouth shut would be the HD version.

 

[howie14]

I hear you, it wore off the first day. The only thing that would keep my mouth shut would be the HD version.

Well, between MASN not having HD yet and DISH's general reluctance to rollout the available ones , you'll be waiting awhile.

 

[Kaydigi]

Well, between MASN not having HD yet and DISH's general reluctance to rollout the available ones , you'll be waiting awhile.

I'm not waiting at all, the PQ on MASN 1 (during O's) is terrible, especially on long shots in the outfield.

Haven't tuned to the channel since last week.

 

[howie14]

I'm not waiting at all, the PQ on MASN 1 (during O's) is terrible, especially on long shots in the outfield.

Haven't tuned to the channel since last week.

Sorry, but if my choice is baseball in SD or no baseball, I'll take the baseball, thank you. And MASN still looks a lot better than CSN, at least on my set. And it looks really sweet on my other set, a 10 year old 27" Sanyo.

Now golf, to me, is only an HD sport.

 

[jrbdmb]

I is my understanding that the blackout rules are up to the various sports teams and the TV (FSN) stations and NOT Dish nor Direct.
When I first got the sports package I could not see the Columbus Blue Jackets and I could see the Pittsburgh hockey team. So I called up the FSN Cincinnati station and they fixed the problem. I could the then see the Columbus team and not see the Pittsburgh team.
So I don't see where it is E*'s or D*s problem as they don't control the blackout rules.

You are correct that the teams and leagues set the blackout rules, and Dish / DirecTV just follow the rules (with occasional screwups such as blacking out a D.C. suburb). This is a bit different however; Dish and an RSN can negotiate to allow subs to watch games on that RSN, but they don't *have* to set up a deal where all fans in a team's "home area" can see the games.

For the most recent example, Cards fans in parts of Illinois and other states (with both Dish and DirecTV) cannot watch the Cards on FSN Midwest because of a dispute with Fox. This isn't a blackout problem per se, just a disagreement between Dish/DirecTV and Fox. Now the kicker for these fans is there *are* blackout rules preventing these fans from watching the Cards on MLB EI or ESPN, so in effect they are now seeing little or no Cards baseball.

 

[dave4100]

I must live in one of those suburbs. The only thing I get on the masns' are game wrap ups and stuff like the John Riggins Show. No actual games. My local RSN is Comcasts sports network.

 

[howie14]

I must live in one of those suburbs. The only thing I get on the masns' are game wrap ups and stuff like the John Riggins Show. No actual games. My local RSN is Comcasts sports network.

If I were you, I wouldn't believe that to be so until someone from DISH and/or MASN told me that. And it would have to be someone a little higher than a DISH CSR.

Good luck.

 

[Kaydigi]

Sorry, but if my choice is baseball in SD or no baseball, I'll take the baseball, thank you. And MASN still looks a lot better than CSN, at least on my set. And it looks really sweet on my other set, a 10 year old 27" Sanyo.

Now golf, to me, is only an HD sport.

What sets are we talking about? The Masn games look washed out (but watchable if our a fan of either team) on a CRT set but not on my LCD. I do not see the jitter problem on Dish's SNY feed during Mets games.

 

[dave4100]

If I were you, I wouldn't believe that to be so until someone from DISH and/or MASN told me that. And it would have to be someone a little higher than a DISH CSR.

Good luck.

I talked to two different CSR's and they both looked up my zip code and it was one that does not qualify for for the MASN local channels. I can get both MASN's, just not the local sports. They rattled off several zip codes and mine fell within those listed. My RSN is comcast sports net. Strange how a competing tv provider is my DISH RSN. I have read elsewhere that there are indeed certain pockets of areas (around D.C)where the MASN local sports programs are not available.

 

[howie14]

I talked to two different CSR's and they both looked up my zip code and it was one that does not qualify for for the MASN local channels. I can get both MASN's, just not the local sports. They rattled off several zip codes and mine fell within those listed. My RSN is comcast sports net. Strange how a competing tv provider is my DISH RSN. I have read elsewhere that there are indeed certain pockets of areas (around D.C)where the MASN local sports programs are not available.

I think I'd still be asking why, though. I've only been with DISH a few months, but I've found that most of their CSRs only know what they can read out of the manual and can't explain the reason for anything.

I'd try to go higher and I'd also contact MASN about the problem.