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[Jimbo]

I'm surprised your setup works at all the way it's connected. Connect it the way Jimbo said and you should be good to go.

Hopefully

Mine works fine, btw ... but he's got a lot more recvrs going than I do at the moment.

 

[raoul5788]

unislick, you should disconnect your setup from the dish until it's connected correctly. You could damage one of your dvrs if you don't.

 

[Jimbo]

unislick, you should disconnect your setup from the dish until it's connected correctly. You could damage one of your dvrs if you don't.

This would be a D* installation issue, I would call them back out.

 

[unislick]

unislick, if you have an HR34, HR24, and two C31s, where does the 5th cable on the splitter go to?

1 to each receiver (24, 34, 31, 31) and 1 to internet component....not sure what this is called...it has 2 RG6 ports and an Ethernet out jack that sits by my router...I have RG6 cables hooked up, but have pulled the Ethernet because it and my router don't like each other.

To be clear, my 24 can see content from my 34 and vice versa and my 31s work as expected. My only issue is the sporadic cancelling of recordings and my router needs to be recycled once a day if I connect it.
Should I really change my SWM setup to address sporadic issues? I trust you all, but I don't trust myself.

 

[Jimbo]

1 to each receiver (24, 34, 31, 31) and 1 to internet component....not sure what this is called...it has 2 RG6 ports and an Ethernet out jack that sits by my router...I have RG6 cables hooked up, but have pulled the Ethernet because it and my router don't like each other.

To be clear, my 24 can see content from my 34 and vice versa and my 31s work as expected. My only issue is the sporadic cancelling of recordings and my router needs to be recycled once a day if I connect it.
Should I really change my SWM setup to address sporadic issues? I trust you all, but I don't trust myself.

I'm still not sure how its all working.... the hr34 & 31s require the PI to SEE the lnb, thus the PI supplys power to the lnb. .. so, without the PI output being connected, I dont know how the recvrs are seing the lnb, unless the Repeat Sat Set Up was never ran and its actally Not running off the SWM somehow.

Again, one of the other guys that do this regularly would know better, i would leave it the way it is till you hear from one of them here, or have a different D tech out to verify it, seeing it IS working.

 

[JerseyMatt]

Its actually fine the way its set up. His power injector is connected to port 1 (the red port) on the splitter. The red port passes power to the LNB. You are not required to connect an IRD to the power injector.

 

[JerseyMatt]

I know Dish, but not Directv (obvious I know based on my stupid questions lately).

So my line from LNB is coming into splitter and yours is coming into PI? If so, is it going into the power to SWM port or Out to IRD port?

Where is your out to IRD connected to?

His is set up the way I set mine up.. with the power injector before the splitter. There's nothing wrong with the way yours is done (there's actually three ways it can be done.. the way you have, the way I have, and you can also install the power injector behind whatever receiver is on port 1. This is done if there is no electrical outlet near the splitter). The power injector only sends power to the LNB, it doesn't have anything to do with the downstream signal, which is why it doesn't technically need anything connected to the IRD port. As long as the "Power to LNB" port on the power injector is connected to the red port (notice the line between port 1 and the input that says DC Power Pass) its fine.

 

[Hutch1814]

I'm still not sure how its all working.... the hr34 & 31s require the PI to SEE the lnb, thus the PI supplys power to the lnb. .. so, without the PI output being connected, I dont know how the recvrs are seing the lnb, unless the Repeat Sat Set Up was never ran and its actally Not running off the SWM somehow.

Again, one of the other guys that do this regularly would know better, i would leave it the way it is till you hear from one of them here, or have a different D tech out to verify it, seeing it IS working.

Its connected correctly. The SWM output is running into the power side of the splitter and the other side if the PI is terminated so its not powering a receiver so, yes its done kind of oddly but it will work with no issues

 

[JerseyMatt]

Its connected correctly. The SWM output is running into the power side of the splitter and the other side if the PI is terminated so its not powering a receiver so, yes its done kind of oddly but it will work with no issues

That's where all you guys are getting hung up.. the PI does not "power" receivers. Its sole function is to power the LNB. It has nothing to do with the receivers.

 

[unislick]

His is set up the way I set mine up.. with the power injector before the splitter. There's nothing wrong with the way yours is done (there's actually three ways it can be done.. the way you have, the way I have, and you can also install the power injector behind whatever receiver is on port 1. This is done if there is no electrical outlet near the splitter). The power injector only sends power to the LNB, it doesn't have anything to do with the downstream signal, which is why it doesn't technically need anything connected to the IRD port. As long as the "Power to LNB" port on the power injector is connected to the red port (notice the line between port 1 and the input that says DC Power Pass) its fine.

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Ok...now that we have my setup all clear, my signal strength looks good, now what?

 

[Hutch1814]

That's where all you guys are getting hung up.. the PI does not "power" receivers. Its sole function is to power the LNB. It has nothing to do with the receivers.

I'm using the "power a receiver" but I'm talking about actually being connected to a receiver to consume a tuner.

 

[Jimbo]

Thanks Jersey and Hutch ...
I was hoping you installers would pop in soon ... I only knew that I had mine set up with a line from the PI to the splitter, so the PI Out was being used.

Any ideas on what may be causing his issues then ?

 

[Hutch1814]

Thanks Jersey and Hutch ...
I was hoping you installers would pop in soon ... I only knew that I had mine set up with a line from the PI to the splitter, so the PI Out was being used.

Any ideas on what may be causing his issues then ?

Sounds like a faulty LNB or a power issue of some sort. I can't see 2 receivers being bad and he said both was acting the same. Could even be a bad line running to the LNB from the splitter. Frequent loss of signal but not enough to disrupt anything except guide data

 

[stardust3]

Sounds like a faulty LNB or a power issue of some sort. I can't see 2 receivers being bad and he said both was acting the same. Could even be a bad line running to the LNB from the splitter. Frequent loss of signal but not enough to disrupt anything except guide data

It's probably something stupid. I was installing a hughes job a couple of days ago & was toning out lines on a prewired house. Customer just recently had directv installed & had all 8 lines tied into a 8 way swm splitter, customer only had 3 receivers. To make a long story short 1 of the lines which I needed still had a catv amp back feeding into the swm splitter. I agree with the lnb possibly being faulty, he really needs someone to come & check it out, especially while still under warranty.

 

[Hutch1814]

It's probably something stupid. I was installing a hughes job a couple of days ago & was toning out lines on a prewired house. Customer just recently had directv installed & had all 8 lines tied into a 8 way swm splitter, customer only had 3 receivers. To make a long story short 1 of the lines which I needed still had a catv amp back feeding into the swm splitter. I agree with the lnb possibly being faulty, he really needs someone to come & check it out, especially while still under warranty.

Only thing is his 8way has the right amount of cables hooked up unless he has a splitter hidden somewhere in the house

 

[unislick]

Only thing is his 8way has the right amount of cables hooked up unless he has a splitter hidden somewhere in the house

No splitter hidden.

 

[Hutch1814]

No splitter hidden.

Not saying you do in a sense, us techs use 2 way splitters in SWM often. Just a thought is all

 

[unislick]

Not saying you do in a sense, us techs use 2 way splitters in SWM often. Just a thought is all

Thanks...didn't think you inferred that I did...just saying I watched the install pretty closely and I didnt see any hidden splitters....my install did take 7 hours and no new wire was needed...just replace sat from Dish, install SWM..swap out all my $.50 compression fittings that I installed, spent 2 hours on phone with his company and Directv because he couldn't auto activate my receivers and his company needed to make sure they went through proper procedures to get reimbursed appropriately (thanks for wasting 2 hours of my life). Another hour was spent with him insisting that the composite video cable for the C31 was somehow going to output video and sound to an older tv who only had coax and RCA inputs. I needed to show home the 10 pin RCA adapter online for him to figure out that is what he needed all for the warehouse to be closed at this point in time because it was 8:00 at night...fortunately the warehouse had the cables and I got it after the weekend.

Maybe it is time to beg for a better tech to come out and do a once over on the install?

 

[Hutch1814]

Thanks...didn't think you inferred that I did...just saying I watched the install pretty closely and I didnt see any hidden splitters....my install did take 7 hours and no new wire was needed...just replace sat from Dish, install SWM..swap out all my $.50 compression fittings that I installed, spent 2 hours on phone with his company and Directv because he couldn't auto activate my receivers and his company needed to make sure they went through proper procedures to get reimbursed appropriately (thanks for wasting 2 hours of my life). Another hour was spent with him insisting that the composite video cable for the C31 was somehow going to output video and sound to an older tv who only had coax and RCA inputs. I needed to show home the 10 pin RCA adapter online for him to figure out that is what he needed all for the warehouse to be closed at this point in time because it was 8:00 at night...fortunately the warehouse had the cables and I got it after the weekend.

Maybe it is time to beg for a better tech to come out and do a once over on the install?

Prolly wouldn't hurt at this point