Fox Blocks Millions of DISH Customers

[Claude Greiner]

The issue is really with all these streaming providers.

If the program providers would stop licensing their content to Sling, Directv now, YouTube tv, PlayStation vue and all the other providers out there, then the real Tv providers would be more open to price increases.

When you got the content providers making it easier for customers to drop traditional Pay tv, the pressure is on the satellite and cable companies to stay competitive.

There should be no reason why a streaming service is cheaper than satellite or cable.

Dish cries about this all the time with cord cutting, yet they have sling.

 

[mwdxer1]

The issue is really with all these streaming providers.

If the program providers would stop licensing their content to Sling, Directv now, YouTube tv, PlayStation vue and all the other providers out there, then the real Tv providers would be more open to price increases.

When you got the content providers making it easier for customers to drop traditional Pay tv, the pressure is on the satellite and cable companies to stay competitive.

There should be no reason why a streaming service is cheaper than satellite or cable.

Dish cries about this all the time with cord cutting, yet they have sling.

Sure there is. No satellite or cable equipment to install...

 

[Bruce]

The issue is really with all these streaming providers.

If the program providers would stop licensing their content to Sling, Directv now, YouTube tv, PlayStation vue and all the other providers out there, then the real Tv providers would be more open to price increases.

When you got the content providers making it easier for customers to drop traditional Pay tv, the pressure is on the satellite and cable companies to stay competitive.

There should be no reason why a streaming service is cheaper than satellite or cable.

Dish cries about this all the time with cord cutting, yet they have sling.

OTT Live service is not TV providers problem, Netflix and the like are.

Last quarter it was reported 1.5 million left traditional service, but it was reported only 200,000 went to streaming Live TV, that means 1.3 million are getting by with OTA, Netflix, Hulu, etc.


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[sam_gordon]

If the program providers would stop licensing their content to Sling, Directv now, YouTube tv, PlayStation vue and all the other providers out there, then the real Tv providers would be more open to price increases.

There were blackouts LONG before OTT came along.

 

[Joe h]

Most of these provider are 40 to $60 per month, provide a terrible interface, and their lineups are pretty bare. Most don’t even offer Viacom, and everyone has several channels missing that I enjoy. So you’re still looking at the hundred dollar range for a similar package. Plus you have to deal with lagging live sports and dropouts.

 

[Juan]

Locast with a VPN

Well, not all of us. Competition is usually good. As a customer, I just want my channel back.

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[120inna55]

Locast with a VPN

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Yeah, I don't have VPN setup, but you shouldn't need it with Locast. I'm physically in the DFW DMA. Even DISH knows it. However, the geolocation of Locast doesn't think so. On their site, they acknowledge that's sometimes an issue and they encourage the user to submit a ticket and they'll fix it. I submitted the ticket several days ago, and I've yet to hear anything.

 

[comfortably_numb]

the geolocation of Locast doesn't think so

More than likely your ISP is showing an IP outside the DFW metro.

 

[The Fat Man]

Well, not all of us. Competition is usually good. As a customer, I just want my channel back.

I wasn't specifically referring to this dispute. My deduction is about everywhere. People are brand loyal, whether they realize it or not. Heck, The Pub had a thread that discussed people's preferences in fried chicken restaurants, and yes I did participate in the discussion (). Somewhere in life, we are all brand loyal. My cellphone will never be an iPhone. Even if I decide one day to buy a Mac, I will never own an iPhone. Nor will I ever buy a brand that does not include expanded memory for my music or the standard analog headphone port. So, when it comes to cellphones, I am anti-Apple. That's being brand specific. I'm loyal to Amdroid phones (although not a specific Android phone maker).

 

[120inna55]

More than likely your ISP is showing an IP outside the DFW metro.

They specifically indicate they determine it off of geolocation, so if location services aren't turned on, it won't work. Even if it is based off my ISP, when they ask you to submit the ticket, they ask for your ZIP, presumably as an alternative. I assume, at that point, they modify the user's account to allow for the appropriate DMA. They just haven't acknowledged my ticket, yet. I would imagine they are inundated.

 

[comfortably_numb]

They specifically indicate they determine it off of geolocation, so if location services aren't turned on, it won't work. Even if it is based off my ISP, when they ask you to submit the ticket, they ask for your ZIP, presumably as an alternative. I assume, at that point, they modify the user's account to allow for the appropriate DMA. They just haven't acknowledged my ticket, yet. I would imagine they are inundated.

I've used it on Roku which doesn't have geolocation abilities (that I know of). All I do is set the VPN for the DMA I want, and it works. That tells me it's IP based for devices that can't geolocate.

 

[NYDutch]

On Chrome or Firefox, I use the "Location Guard" add-on to make my geo-location results anywhere in the world I want them to be. On my Android phone, I use the "Fake GPS" app to change my apparent location. Both work well with Locast. I sometimes cast Locast to my Firestick from my phone to watch missed programs here in the east from a western station.

 

[ncted]

Most of these provider are 40 to $60 per month, provide a terrible interface, and their lineups are pretty bare. Most don’t even offer Viacom, and everyone has several channels missing that I enjoy. So you’re still looking at the hundred dollar range for a similar package. Plus you have to deal with lagging live sports and dropouts.

Dropouts?

 

[Ronnie-]

Dropouts?

I’m guessing he means internet dropouts. Not a OTT provider issue.

 

[ncted]

I’m guessing he means internet dropouts. Not a OTT provider issue.

I suppose, even if it was, satellite and cable certainly experience those from time to time.

 

[kc1ih]

One option I would recommend is a grey market Canadian DBS subscription.

The only caveat is you have to be in the sat footprint.

BellTV is pretty good, it is almost identical to DISH (receiver, EPG, remote, etc.)


Benefits of a BellTV sub:

USA/CAN exchange rate is pretty good right now (has been for a while) = cheaper price per month $USD

NEVER have seen a programming dispute (in last 20+ years anyway)

You will get "time shifting" included (east/west feeds, like in the C-band days when you would automatically get USA Network East and West feeds with your sub)

You will get MANY NFL games every Sunday (almost like having NFL Sunday Ticket)

If you want the major league / college sports packages, they have them too. In the USA NFL Sunday Ticket is $300/year. On BellTV you can get it for US $150/year.

It's good to have options when these disputes in the USA occur...

I used to have a Bell TV dish when I lived in NH. Now I live in FL and I’m out of their footprint. I can get some stuff from Canada on streaming but much of it requires a user name and password from a Canadian provider.

 

[TheLip]

The issue is really with all these streaming providers.

There should be no reason why a streaming service is cheaper than satellite or cable.

Dish cries about this all the time with cord cutting, yet they have sling.

This comment should serve as a testament that you are full of it.

If you don't understand the significant differences in streaming costs vs satellite or cable then you are clueless. Satellites typically cost in the hundreds of millions to build, launch, and operate. Running cables and fiber around a single town typically cost in the ten million for one small town and significantly more for larger cities which could cost in the hundreds of millions. Streaming services only need server farms and computing power, which although can be expensive, the cost is significantly less than cable or satellite providers. Streaming services mostly use the infrastructure that you pay for in your internet bill and also do not need to provide expensive hardware to the consumer as do cable and satellite services.

Now, do you stand by your comment that, "There should be no reason why a streaming service is cheaper than satellite or cable." ????

 

[Ronnie-]

I suppose, even if it was, satellite and cable certainly experience those from time to time.

More so than streaming for me. That said my internet is pretty stable, others may not be.

 

[reubenray]

Is this why FOX OnDemand is gone?

 

[Bobby]

Is this why FOX OnDemand is gone?

Because there is a contract lapse. There is no FOX anything right now.