Well my contract was up once again so I finally pulled the trigger and got the H3 with joey, and since I am a long time dish guy, got 3 months free premiums and 15 off for 12 months. Hopefully will not have alot of the problems others have been having, i hAve a couple friends that hAve had the h3 for 3 months and hAve not had any problems with theirs, hopefully i will be lucky also.. Will post in the " I have a hopper 3 forum" and let everyone know how the install went and how the system is doing. I am scheduled for sept. 9th , which is to allow me some time to watch a few things I have recorded and time to play with the h3 before the fall season starts.