Don't Believe NPS about C band support ending.

[stone1150]

Its posted on the HITS site as an option for cable companies...why couldnt they make it available to 4DTV'ers??
Digital Cable Programming Lineup - HITS Quantum from Comcast Media Center

I know it would take a remap from Motorola to get those added in there

Well I just fired off a request for more info and explained the situation with possible customers needing service. The way that the cable companies are at war with the pizza pan dish companies, maybe I will get a response. But I won't hold my breath. I did tell them that there were thousands of possible subscribers if they did come up with something. After all, there are several miles of uncabled areas. I live in one of them and it is only a few hundred feet from a highway. But they will not cable it even though there are 60 or so homes in here. Comcast can only say no. I asked for info on set top boxes and satellite distribution. Have a great day!

 

[tvropro]

Yep megapipe the 4dtv cannot receive 29270 3/4 combined mode. It would need a new tuner and new firmware. When the 922 was being designed there was talk of adding combo but it went to production before that. Could you imagine if the 922 did megapipe how different things would be today.

In theory Comcast could add a few channels on there Denver Mux or one of the others 4dtv supports. Denver is 29270 7/8 split it can be stretched. The 4DTV could receive that.

Who uplinks the W3 Networks for SRL? Now there's an option to add a few channels quite easily.

 

[sergei]

Sky Report has another report and whoever the reporter is he lacking a few brain cells and still doesn't know how to report. Send off another reply to them about their lack of reporting all the facts. Not one mention of either SRL or SkyVision names just NPS side of the story. More People need to send a reply to this article and tell them to report the whole true from all parties.


My Email: The reporter still has his head in the sand and only talks about NPS and does not even mentioning that he's talked with SkyVision and SRL which also are program suppliers..A good reporter would have check all sources. Mike has a reason for spreading this rumor it's called making MONEY and getting his customers to switch to DishNetwork. How come the other two programmer have not been told about this? Check your facts before you write another article, all your doing is helping NPS kill C-Band. The only other option is your in bed with NPS which will be sad if that is the case.

Their address: info@mediabiz.com

 

[tvropro]

Could NPS be changing there attack plan

I just got off the phone with NPS because I do have stuff running out today and wanted to see if I could get more answers. (I did not renew) This is the first time in a week I was not pressured into a dish network system when calling. The person told me that NPS is not getting out of the c band business but channels, 99% that are on G3 including, Hallmark, Lifetime, Fox News CNBC & MSNBC would be going away in about 3 months. The only one that wasn't on G3 was Blue Highways tv there suppose to close shop by summer. I get a feeling that NPS will be pulling down there reuplinked channels in the next few months. I asked them about W5 and the others and they said they don't see any changes.

It has become too much of an expense for them to keep G3 going, I'm thinking this is what started all of this. Since NPS changes stories from day to day they have lost my trust even if they back slide now and still want to sell the other c band channels. I still am going with SRL and Skyvison.

I figured this is an important update in this never ending saga.

 

[trinidex]

It has become too much of an expense for them to keep G3 going, I'm thinking this is what started all of this.

Is there anyway to find the numbers on this stuff?

Subscribers of the G3 stuff?
The cost of uplinking to G3?

Surely, all being equal, it is a matter of math - I know it's not all equal - just ponering

Also, someone mentioned W3 for SRL - now there is something that might be an alternative.

I prefer to deal with SRL/Skyvision, even before this fiasco.

 

[tvropro]

Is there anyway to find the numbers on this stuff?



Also, someone mentioned W3 for SRL - now there is something that might be an alternative.

Listen to sound clip 3

TvroPro.... What's up with the 4DTV....

 

[stone1150]

I did get a preliminary reply from Comcast.

Comcast Media Center: Thank you for your inquiry

Monday, February 8, 2010 12:10 PM

From:
"Lisa Horne" <lisa_horne@cable.comcast.com>






Thank you for your interest in the Comcast Media Center. Your request is being processed and we will respond to you as quickly as possible.

We will see what will happen. They could of just said that I wasn't a service provider and to get lost. But they didn't. I thought that since there are the channels on the W-5 bird from them, they could work with Skyvision or SRL for example to get them to us. Well it was just a thought. Have a great day!

 

[Zimmy]

"The rumors are unfounded."

Motorola has not made a statement that they are getting out of the C-Band business. As long as C-Band continues to be profitable it will stick around. For the last 10 years some folks have been screaming, “the sky is falling.” Netlink/Superstar/Turner pulled a stunt like this a few years ago where they tried to convert all their C-Band market to small dish. They told their customers all sorts of fear mongering lies. They told their customers if they didn’t switch to small dish they would be without programming. I know what the NPS website says and I know what NPS reps on this forum are saying but what NPS reps are telling their customers over the phone is completely different and it is leading the customers to believe that C-Band is coming to an end. When in fact no one knows what is going to happen and to speculate and to tell lies does injustice to the C-Band community. And to those that have profited from the C-Band community and are leading to its demise they should be ashamed of themselves. The C-Band customers are very loyal, they are not as many as they used to be but they are a determined bunch. They have paid a lot of money for their equipment over the years and they do not want to switch. It appears NPS wishes to convert their C-Band market to small dish. They can do as they like but they should not try to bring down the big dish with them. This is how I see it. The quote in my title comes from a Motorola man in the know. I will not be responding to any posts. I just wanted to chime in with my two cents because I see a lot of misinformation and speculation masked as truth. I also see a few posters on here that do nothing but bash big dish. They should find a better outlet for their troubles. This forum is great and is meant to help people and get information out to the public. I thank all of those helpful people out there that give their time and gifted knowledge.

"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"

 

[Kb Cool]

As long as C-Band continues to be profitable it will stick around. "

That's all fine and dandy. But, you can't expect people to pay E* and D* prices and stick around for long, Just because the signal doesn't go out in the rain. Here's just one example.

Discovery HD Theater (High Definition) $6.25 a month.

 

[lonewolf454]

Discovery HD Theater (High Definition) $6.25 a month.

It's $4.99 a month where I looked, always a good idea to check prices at all providers. Oh yeah, your ready to see 4dtv die, I forgot.

Why not take your frustration elsewhere. Most of us here are trying to save our 4dtv programming and I don't see how any of your posts are beneficial to us. I have sent emails to Motorola, Comcast, SRL, Skyvision, and NPS, and had phone conversations regarding 4dtv's future. What have you done lately?

 

[steve515]

I am wondering if someone could buy the rights or authorizations from motorola?

Someone like skyvision or programming center or something. Surley there is enough subsribers to where it would be profitable. There are 20k plus subscribers from what i have read.

I am starting to think that i just threw away quite a bit of money on a dsr922 a few weeks ago and i havent even gotten to use it.

 

[Kb Cool]

Most of us here are trying to save our 4dtv programming

C&P from skyreport.

"Please note that Motorola is continuously working with our customers to deliver expectations and offerings that will meet our customers needs. Motorola operates the C-Band authorization center on a cost-recovery basis for the benefit of those who continue to utilize C-Band as a content delivery platform. As programmers move from C-Band to other distribution methods, costs on a per-user basis continue to rise. Motorola will continue to operate the Authorization Center until the remaining users no longer feel that it is an economically viable distribution strategy for their content."

 

[sergei]

Why not take your frustration elsewhere. Most of us here are trying to save our 4dtv programming and I don't see how any of your posts are beneficial to us.

Now did you expect anything else from him as this is all he's done on both forums, at least on the other forum they have the ignore option.

 

[Kb Cool]

Now did you expect anything else from him as this is all he's done on both forums, at least on the other forum they have the ignore option.

I just refused to be the last guy standing to pay the "access control lady".

 

[sergei]

That's all fine and dandy. But, you can't expect people to pay E* and D* prices and stick around for long, Just because the signal doesn't go out in the rain. Here's just one example.

Discovery HD Theater (High Definition) $6.25 a month.

Here's the prices from the other two web sites and not just the highest listed.

SRL....4.99

NPS... 5.88 ++++++++ extra charges

SkyVision....6.25

 

[Kb Cool]

Here's the prices from the other two web sites and not just the highest listed.

SRL....4.99

NPS... 5.88 ++++++++ extra charges

SkyVision....6.25

Still too much $$$ for me.
Anybody interested in the Ultimate pak it's only $155.99 a month. Sorry,only 1 receiver per household. If you want 2 it'll cost you $311.98.

http://www.programming-center.net/webform2.aspx?AD=D&SP=ULTIMATE+PACK

You see my point. Someone's making 4DTV economical un-viable to the average consumer. Back when we had 200,000 subscribers. Which i believe were all die hards who loved 4DTV. But lost channels, higher prices and lack of HD drove even those guys away. According to NPS it's Motorola who's doing it. Maybe they figure if they remain in the cband business. But, overprice everything to the point nobody wants it. It'll spare them of a class action lawsuit.

 

[Corrado]

I doubt anyone here subs to that Ultimate package. Personally, I don't have that much time to watch all those channels anyhow. In fact, that list contains the dozen or so channels I do watch and that's all I pay for. That's what I like about 4DTV.

I'm sure those that needed their state of the art DVRs and HD have already moved on. Part of my love of C band is the "care and feeding" and the maintenance involved to keep it operational. But, I'm a self proclaimed tinkerer and DIYer. I like other old vintage electronics and machinery and enjoy working on them as well.

 

[Kb Cool]

I doubt anyone here subs to that Ultimate package. Personally, I don't have that much time to watch all those channels anyhow. In fact, that list contains the dozen or so channels I do watch and that's all I pay for. That's what I like about 4DTV.

I'm sure those that needed their state of the art DVRs and HD have already moved on. Part of my love of C band is the "care and feeding" and the maintenance involved to keep it operational. But, I'm a self proclaimed tinkerer and DIYer. I like other old vintage electronics and machinery and enjoy working on them as well.

So, if your ala-carte channels you have now for $5 a month. (just an example, IDK what you have) increase to $10 a month. You'll continue to sub?

 

[TMair]

I doubt anyone here subs to that Ultimate package. Personally, I don't have that much time to watch all those channels anyhow. In fact, that list contains the dozen or so channels I do watch and that's all I pay for. That's what I like about 4DTV.

I'm sure those that needed their state of the art DVRs and HD have already moved on. Part of my love of C band is the "care and feeding" and the maintenance involved to keep it operational. But, I'm a self proclaimed tinkerer and DIYer. I like other old vintage electronics and machinery and enjoy working on them as well.

Isn't that the truth!!

My dish is mounted high, I have to climb up on my roof, loosen the mounting bolts, swing the dish around, climb on a small step ladder so I can work on the feed horn/LNBs, I love it!!!
But sadly it is becoming a lost art, I have people ask me all the time, "Does that thing still work?" THen I proceed to tell them just how well it does work, but it seams most people just want to turn on the TV and vegitate now days, sad in deed.
Terry

 

[Kb Cool]

Hey everyone! There's new HD "up" on E* instead of being taken away.