Don Fehr rumored to be stepping down as MLB union chief!

[salsadancer7]

When the owners spend too much, they're villified for spending too much. When they don't spend too much, they're guilty of collusion and have to pay anyway...


Sandra

NO...when the owners spend too much...they cry poverty and their should be a salary cap(which in all reality, I would agree....but the horse is out of the barn...so to speak.)...and it's THEIR OWN DOING.

When they spend too little, they DO get villified because just 2 years ago, they payed either some journeyman pitched or punch-n-judy everyday player $8 million a year and that signing has not produced jack....

 

[SandraC]

NO...when the owners spend too much...they cry poverty and their should be a salary cap(which in all reality, I would agree....but the horse is out of the barn...so to speak.)...and it's THEIR OWN DOING.

When they spend too little, they DO get villified because just 2 years ago, they payed either some journeyman pitched or punch-n-judy everyday player $8 million a year and that signing has not produced jack....

Well, that's a lot of stuff there in two little paragraphs, most of which doesn't address my point. But I will go in one of your directions.

The owners tried to collectively bargain a salary cap, like ALL of the other sports currently have in place, but the union would not agree to it.


Sandra

 

[Will94]

There really are no good guys in MLB. The owners were willing to let the players cheat because the 1998 homerun chase brought back baseball after the strike. The players cheat, and in doing so show absolute contempt for the game and for the fans. What baseball needs is a powerful commissioner with a passion for the game. Instead, we have Bud "All-Star Game Tie" Selig.

I am so conflicted about this. I have a ten month old son. Some of my best memories of childhood are going to Astros games. I have tickets to take him to his first game on Sunday. On the other hand, the tickets were $39 each. We used to sit in the outfield for $1.

 

[Will94]

Just to clarify what I wrote...
When I say there are no good guys in MLB, I don't mean that every player or owner is bad, just that, collectively, they don't give a rat's a$$ about the game or the fans.

 

[salsadancer7]

The owners tried to collectively bargain a salary cap, like ALL of the other sports currently have in place, but the union would not agree to it.


Sandra

And WHY? Because like I have said over and over....they had not shown in the past that they could not negociate in good faith because of the issues with collusion and because they put in an owner as a commissioner.....

...again I ask, after all that history...would YOU trust the owners? Honestly...?

 

[salsadancer7]

There really are no good guys in MLB. The owners were willing to let the players cheat because the 1998 homerun chase brought back baseball after the strike. The players cheat, and in doing so show absolute contempt for the game and for the fans. What baseball needs is a powerful commissioner with a passion for the game. Instead, we have Bud "All-Star Game Tie" Selig.

I am so conflicted about this. I have a ten month old son. Some of my best memories of childhood are going to Astros games. I have tickets to take him to his first game on Sunday. On the other hand, the tickets were $39 each. We used to sit in the outfield for $1.

I TOTALLY agree with you and feel your sentiments to a certain extent.

Since when do we care about INDIVIDUAL numbers of the players? YEAH, we go to the ball park to see individual performances, but in the end, aren't we there to see THE TEAM....YOUR team, to win?

I like to SEE some ball players perform...I have favorites like everyone else, but I root for MY TEAM to win.... W's .....

I have NEVER, EVER gone to a professional game of ANY KIND to root for an individual that plays in a team sport......EVER.

EDIT: The OWNERS will never, EVER have a strong commissioner again. Look at the last one, Fay Vincent sided WITH THE PLAYERS. The players have shown they believe in true capitolism in baseball....not the slave and slave owner mentality of most professional sports team owners believe in. That "old boys network" showed their true colors by colluding and weakening the commissioners office.

..and yet people STILL stick up for them...

 

[SandraC]

And WHY? Because like I have said over and over....they had not shown in the past that they could not negociate in good faith because of the issues with collusion and because they put in an owner as a commissioner.....

...again I ask, after all that history...would YOU trust the owners? Honestly...?

There is animosity between the unions and owners in all sports. All sports have had strikes/lockouts to some extent. Yet all sports except baseball have been able to negotiate a salary cap.


Sandra

 

[Will94]

I have NEVER, EVER gone to a professional game of ANY KIND to root for an individual that plays in a team sport......EVER.

I will admit that I went to the Mets first game in Houston in 2005 to boo Carlos Beltran. That was good fun!

 

[Derwin0]

EDIT: The OWNERS will never, EVER have a strong commissioner again. Look at the last one, Fay Vincent sided WITH THE PLAYERS. The players have shown they believe in true capitolism in baseball....not the slave and slave owner mentality of most professional sports team owners believe in. That "old boys network" showed their true colors by colluding and weakening the commissioners office.
.

Do you blame them? The commissioner was supposed to work for the owners, he is their employee. Fay Vincent banned one of the owners, clashed with several, and tried to force a realignment that the owners did not want.
Hell yeah they fired him, I'd fire any employee that tried that.

 

[salsadancer7]

Do you blame them? The commissioner was supposed to work for the owners, he is their employee. Fay Vincent banned one of the owners, clashed with several, and tried to force a realignment that the owners did not want.
Hell yeah they fired him, I'd fire any employee that tried that.

LMAO!! Yeah, I mean he was ONLY thinking about the game and not the owners pockets...the nerve of that commissioner.....

 

[Will94]

The commissioner is selected by the owners, but he works for the game, not for them. He is supposed to be independent of the owners and players. This neutrality is supposed to ensure that his motives are to do what is best for MLB. Selig got around the neutrality issue by selling the Brewers (to his daughter, I think).

 

[anders5189]

The commissioner is selected by the owners, but he works for the game, not for them. He is supposed to be independent of the owners and players. This neutrality is supposed to ensure that his motives are to do what is best for MLB. Selig got around the neutrality issue by selling the Brewers (to his daughter, I think).

I've heard stories that back when Fay Vincent was ousted George W. Bush, then owner of the Texas Rangers, wanted to become commissioner, but Bud Selig outmanuvered him so Bush had to settle for becoming President of the United States. I wonder what would have happened had Bush become commissioner instead.

 

[SandraC]

I wonder what would have happened had Bush become commissioner instead.

President Bud?


Sandra

 

[Paul Wozniak]

God help us.

 

[salsadancer7]

God help us.

NO SH**!!!