Yes, I understand people "move", but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the locals people are assigned per zip code and with only those locals the lack of competition. Yes, I know there are multiple locals competing in a market, and I know about SV locals but that's rare. What I'm talking about like more than one NBC, more than one CBS, more than one ABC, more than one FOX, and so on. This way a true free market would exist, by forcing one market's locals to compete with another's, and therefore have consumer choice.
Doesn't designated locals eliminate a true free market?
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Your talking about more than 1 Major Network (CBS for example) in the Same market (city).
Is that allowed ?
I know cities often can get more than one when you include OTA set ups, but that's different, that's the Sub reaching out.
I do recall on our Local Cable Comp. We could get Toledo and Detroit NBC I think it was, but there were restrictions on the Detroit one.
If there were 2 in one market, wouldn't you think that would not be allowed due to Advertising rights ?
Of course your now getting into the Network rules and regulations.
Jumbo I assume you are talking about Buckeye cable. Yes both WDIV and WNWO are available. The problem is copy rights in the area. For Toledo NBC copy rights belong to WNWO. This is why Dish or Direct are restricted on what channels they can deliver. Fox was the network that put this into law in the 90s eliminating Distant Channels
I think he's talking about the way "locals" are defined and implemented via cable or satellite subscriptions. For instance Dish says my locals are the Scranton/Wilkes Barre stations based on ZIP code alone while in actual fact Philadelphia is the market area we associate with. What I think he's asking is why we can't get both sets of "locals".
The rules are pretty clear. Locals are based on the Designated Market Area where you live. And it's a contract/commercial issue. The network has granted the "franchise" for its programming in a certain area to the station in your DMA. It's an exclusive contract. If it were not exclusive, the contract price would be lower. And since the price for ads is based on the audience size, a station sharing its market would get less revenue and then possibly go out of business.
The biggest problem I have with DTV is the fact that even though the FCC says they can provide both Baltimore and DC in my Zip Code area, they will not do it.
Hell the op moved to an area where he gets two sets of locals.....and neither of them is his actual market
Why are you so rude all the time? I am "moved". But I'm talking about the free market capitalism concept, and not anything about "moving". I believe that the free market is where everyone gets a choice (and not with the moving concept, but capitalism instead). I am being theoretical here. I believe in competition everywhere, such as local markets, and consumer choice benefits everybody.
Who said it's a free market? It's not. The US is not a purely capitalist country. The US government regulates many industries and there isn't free competition in many of them either. We also follow some socialist principles for things like public schools and other public services.
This is not a political post. I'm not bashing either end of the spectrum because they are both obviously necessary. I just think it's a common misconception that the US is a capitalist, free market state. It's really a mixture of economic systems.
That's not exactly what I said. As I said, I was talking in theory. I know it's not completely a free market. I was moreso talking about the idea. A free market is the way it should work is what I'm talking about.
I get such a kick out of the term "Free Markets".... There is no such thing and never will be.....
Everything at some point must be controlled.....
Same can be said about deregulation......It sound so good, but its a joke....
NOT always; in our area, we have (2) ABC affiliates in our DMA, which are BOTH carried (in our DMA) by E*. Same thing in the Grand Rapids/Kalamazoo/Battle Creek, MI DMA.
There are some others, but these 2 come to mind off the bat.
That's interesting, because that's exactly how it's done on both D* & E* in many DMA's, including ours...
agreed. The other day I lost a station OTA and turned on Dish (which is at the lake house) and on same channel was a bright gren screen. So while they are gathered at the POP, in a lot of cases they are gathered OTAThat's interesting, because that's exactly how it's done on both D* & E* in many DMA's, including ours...
get your panties out of a wad. I was referring to Chip (raoul) who said they cant offer you more than one set of locals in an area.
Yes, but that's not the same as offering locals from two different dmas. Since the TS specifically mentioned that he wasn't referring to SV stations, I answered accordingly.
The answer to the question asked, the major networks have an agreement that they give their programming freely OTA, in return they get no competition. So with some minor exceptions that is why it is set up the way it is.
As a side note, some of us believe that should be extended to being carried on Cable/Satellite, that neither should make any real money to get the signal to everyone that is supposed to be served by the network. Dish and Direct live up to that, I believe Cable does too. The networks hold all of us hostage by not agreeing with that.
As a side note, some of us believe that should be extended to being carried on Cable/Satellite, that neither should make any real money to get the signal to everyone that is supposed to be served by the network. Dish and Direct live up to that, I believe Cable does too. The networks hold all of us hostage by not agreeing with that.
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