I just had to delete some comments due to their political slant. This is getting tiresome! Please stop with the political comments.
dishstandsbyyou gives you a great credit for fox dispute
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Fox got everything they wanted out of the Multichannel News article and that 90,000 lie. See here, here, here, and here among others. Fox News may not be everyone's cup of tea, but they are masters at media manipulation.
Notwithstanding, we have:
Fox News' total audience down over 21% since Dish blackout started
Tough to manipulate actual numbers.
I know of no "underhanded" tactics, by either party, and neither do you. We have seen Ergen's lack of decorum. Parrot Ergen all you want.
Since you seem to have an inside track to the Fox/Dish negociations, care to share the transcripts with us?
I'd say that advising customers to switch if they want Fox is the only viable solution at this point. Any clear thinking individual can see that. The fact that I've been without Fox for 3 weeks says it all.
I think the stats are still skewed due to the Holidays, but that 21% was a year over year number.
If correct then Fox has lost 21% of their viewers and Dish (using Fox's numbers) has lost approximately 0.7% of their subs (90,000/14,000,000).
If anywhere close to that ratio holds, then Dish is a clear winner here. But again, I don't really think the last three weeks are a good measure.
And their false GUESS at how many consumers have left? Guaranteeing their stock holders dish wouldn't leave... That's just bad management on Foxs prt to their shareholders. That all said, advising customers to switch is just as "underhanded" as Charlie calling Fox on their Bs. And yes, I will beleive Charlie in that regard and here is why. This is not the first time in the last 12 months Fox has tryed to hold one of their channels or content hostage from dish, to improve contracts on FS1 specifically. Go ahead and research that one. You are so short sighted and small minded on the topic, it's truly astounding. As I have said before, Fox News target audience member.
I must not have complained enough lol. I sent in my comments on Jan 2 and I have not gotten a credit or even a email. Ive been a dish customer since 2001....Did you guys that got credits give your account number or just email when you left feedback?
That's the first I've heard how long before the contract for the 'other' channels expires. Considering Fox News might be off until then, over a year is very scary.
AMEN! Hallelujah! Preach it, brother!
We have established that Mark believes Charlie has committed slander and Chad refutes it (along with others.)
Now move along, move along.... nothing to see here!
Mark, as I posted before, this is not just about Fox. Fox signed a legal document and now they want to break it. If Dish caved into Fox, it would set a dangerous principle and any provider could do the same. Let's get the name calling out of the thread.
Lol. This actually made me chuckle. Thanks Tony.AMEN! Hallelujah! Preach it, brother!
We have established that Mark believes Charlie has committed slander and Chad refutes it (along with others.)
Now move along, move along.... nothing to see here!
Where did you come up with that? Lets say you are correct that $5 is based on what they get and what they lose. It's still $5 a customer in the end. By the way the same math used to get what Direct TV or Cable makes. So however that number is arrived at it is done the same.
I'm surprised at some of the posters, not really at all by others. 90,000 comes from an estimate by a FOX Vice President of Distribution. He gets that from how many have called or contacted Fox and contacted DISH. Really?? And people here are actually using that as some kind of correct amount or even a fair and balanced estimate? I didn't realize some could be so easily deceived. I at the very begining said Fox News was a channel DISH has to keep, so if they lose more than usual in this dispute I could believe that, but not from the company in the dispute with DISH. And now that is isn't about Fox News anymore it changes drastically what DISH may have to do.
Call. You should have received a $50 credit depending on your billing cycle.
Good luck
I find it funny that at least one of the most vociferous posters about how horrible Dish is being is still a Dish subscriber. IOW not even following his own advice!
If that dig was directed at me, I have a DirectTV installation scheduled for Jan. 14 in the morn, not that it's any of your business.
Hope that helps.
I would hope that in the future all those bragging about their $50 credit will refrain from complaining about Dish subscription rates, as those credits help raise the costs.
Well, from my post above, you can see it's not just posts in this thread. A number of other sites had no problem choosing sides based on Mr. Carry's deception. Which is exactly why he did it.
If the shoe fits...If that dig was directed at me, I have a DirectTV installation scheduled for Jan. 14 in the morn, not that it's any of your business.
Hope that helps.
I hope that you walk away realizing that Direct has their own share of issues also, and it is certainly isn't unheard of for them to lose a station or three on occasion.
If you have the Hopper, you will miss it. Nothing wrong with their Genie, its just mundane.
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