I worked on my dishes last night
And on WA my signals are 65 - 77
On Eastern Arc signals are from 33 - 60. The Western Arc is a lot more powerful.
DISH HD Migration off of 61.5
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And on WA my signals are 65 - 77
On Eastern Arc signals are from 33 - 60. The Western Arc is a lot more powerful.
That's kind of weird Scott given the fact that you live in Conn. I would have thought that the EA would have been stronger
Oh-well, I'll just chauk that up to my not having enough knowledge in this area.
Oh-well, I'll just chauk that up to my not having enough knowledge in this area.
strange
The weakest thing I have on 61.5 is 43 so what the heck is down at 33?
The weakest thing I have on 61.5 is 43 so what the heck is down at 33?
That's kind of weird Scott given the fact that you live in Conn. I would have thought that the EA would have been stronger
Nope its not that way, in fact looking over my signal reading with a DMA Average sheet someone sent me about a month ago it looks like this is the norm On WA the signals show an avg of 72... while on the EA the signals show an avg of 57 on 72.7.
Glad I can get my locals OTA. I'll keep my 110, 119, 129 setup even though I was to get EA, given where I live for the locals.
By the way, have a great vacation Scott.
By the way, have a great vacation Scott.
We sub to dishHD Absolute w/ Locals in the Austin TX DMA with a Dish 1000.2 pointed at 110, 119, 129 and a Dish 500 pointed at 61.5. What would you do the wing dish pointed at 61.5 when this "HD Migration off of 61.5" is completed?
-- Just leave it for the back-up HD locals on 61.5?
-- Re-point it at 72.7 as a back-up for most HD channels?
-- Turn it into a bird bath?
Talon Dancer
p.s. FWIW we have a clear LOS from 129<->61.5 unless the sat is very low on the horizon.
-- Just leave it for the back-up HD locals on 61.5?
-- Re-point it at 72.7 as a back-up for most HD channels?
-- Turn it into a bird bath?
Talon Dancer
p.s. FWIW we have a clear LOS from 129<->61.5 unless the sat is very low on the horizon.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you need it to point somewhere else for any reason at a later time, do the re-point then....
I imagine much of this observation is due to the eastern arc being almost all 8PSK 2/3 FEC, as opposed to the far more QPSK signals on WA. Dish's signal measurement seems to be based on quality as well as strength, so modulation effects things. Just compare TPs 21 and 29 on E15 with the others coming from E15. Those 2 QPSK TPs have far higher signal strengths, in the 70s for me in Ohio.
E15 is based on the E11 design, so I would doubt there would be much of a loss in strength. I suspect it is not yet operating in the triple power it is capable of, as it hasn't been fully tested yet. The rest of the EA aside from Nimiq-5 is relative space junk (E3, E8, and Rainbow-1) compared to the new stuff on WA (Ciel-2, E11, E14).
A good comparison might be Ciel-2 and Nimiq-5, as they should have similar modulations and capabilites. I bet there is much less difference on those TPs.
i currently have all mpeg4 receivers but setup on 110/119/129 and live in the nashville, tn dma area what will happen with my setup should i have easten arc or western arc my locals are on 129 and i lose that satellite everytime it is cloudy or it rains dish is mounted on roof and there is no problem with line of sight.
Don't worry about it until they contact you... and if they don't contact you then your all set.
Isn't the comparison a little more complicated than that since the receiver signal meter shows quality and not strength?
Most of the Western Arc transponders are still QPSK, but Eastern Arc is predominantly 8PSK-Turbo?
Edit: Doh! HD Roberts already point this out and I missed it on the first read-through. Sorry!
Thats the million dollar question, for which I've seen no answer as of yet. Whats the bird going to be used for?
No worries, although I wish someone that has 72.7 and 129 (there is probably not many) can test my postulate.
I believe someone posted that Dish has stated that such a configuration would eventually cause technical troubles. But many are doing it. Dish just won't authorize setting it up that way any more.
Yeah, no answer as to what they are going to do with the completely conUS Echostar 15. ?
It seems to me that they are simply going to slowly hide HD content at 72.7 so that people call in and get the correct Arc. If Dish just sits and wait for everyone to call it won't happen.
I don't see any other reason for moving HD channels from 61 to 72 since both 61 and 72 are both EA and both are completely conUS. They're not freeing up space on the EA. Of course if they get all the EA DMA's fully setup with the right antennas then they can turn off EA HD locals from the WA birds.
It's just to push people to upgrade or update. I think.
CK
It seems to me that they are simply going to slowly hide HD content at 72.7 so that people call in and get the correct Arc. If Dish just sits and wait for everyone to call it won't happen.
I don't see any other reason for moving HD channels from 61 to 72 since both 61 and 72 are both EA and both are completely conUS. They're not freeing up space on the EA. Of course if they get all the EA DMA's fully setup with the right antennas then they can turn off EA HD locals from the WA birds.
It's just to push people to upgrade or update. I think.
CK
The exercise does me good. For the last 15 years I have changed something to maintain the service every year, sometimes more often. These changes are likely good business for installers!
Not completely! There's E12, formerly known as Rainbow 1, which has 12 spotbeam transponders, 8 (?) of which are currently in service for HD locals.
