hate to admit it, but yes. been following it and the other since day one. Just a few more days!
DISH Drops AMC Networks (AMC Back on DISH channel 131)
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hate to admit it, but yes. been following it and the other since day one. Just a few more days!
If your looking for confrontation you won't find it here, there are others who are more than willing to debate this nonsense.
demsd said:Huh? The whole point I was making.
No it's not. Every household in America responds to the U.S. Census. Statistics are drawn up and averages are made including the average occupants of a household. They even create household averages for specific age groups. Your point was that in any given area a group of yahoos can get together and watch something. I'm talking about using official data and statistics to derive a number of average possible household viewers. What do you think they say "one house, one viewer?" No! But you are right, they don't take the large groups into effect. Both the networks and the advertisers use this data.
They can take my Internet when they pry it from my stiff, carpal-tunnel-numbed fingers.
Something we agree on.
You were the one who "stepped into a pile of bs on a subject" you could "care less about."
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Advertisers use census data to determine how many people might watch a particular show? If DISH has 14 million subs, that could translate into 42 million potential viewers [using an average of 3 people to a household], or 84 million eyeballs. Advertisers don't care what a shows potential viewership could be.
Friends and Murder She Wrote had a similar number of total viewers. But because Friends appealed to a younger audience, NBC was able to charge as much 2-3 times more for a commercial that ran during Friends, then CBS was charging for a commercial that ran during Murder She Wrote.
How does census data predict who in a household is available to watch a particular show at particular time?
IN the over 15 years of DISH service I have not had any real channels removed that I cared about and that didn't return eventually. I liked the Hd versions of the ABC family and DISNEY removed and I was Okay with that, because I think that Disney was Crazy to try to get Paid twice for both sd and Hd feeds of the same channels. Since they removed the hd version I rarely watch anything on any of these channels now. Lost the Voom channels , and I really liked Monsters Hd, but towards the end when they actually took them off the air, I had lost interest ,because Voom showed the same 4 shows over and over again on their channels all day long. I agreed with DISH's decision to yank the 20 channels and condense them down to 5. When Voom /Cablevison squaked and wanted all 20 on the air or nothing , I agreed with DISH's decision to remove them all. Sports channels I could care less about , and wouldn't mind all of them removed and spun off in their own Premium pack. The whole auto hop lawsuit is about standing up to network tv and their affiliates who want to extort more amd more money for carrying channels that are free over the air. Charlie is standing up for the entire pay tv business by saying NO to these greedy bastards. I agree with him and his position on THESE issues. As I said before I do NOT agree on the FEE structure or the new State Surcharge bull crap. As for DIRECTV , you might get the channels ,but you will pay more to watch them. They are already $10.00 more per programming pack then DISH.
there will be heck to pay if I have to miss any new Walking Dead episiodes this fall
i like the walking dead too. maybe dish and amc networks will reach an agreement.there will be heck to pay if I have to miss any new Walking Dead episiodes this fall
there will be heck to pay if I have to miss any new Walking Dead episiodes this fall
Amazon VOD $2.84/episode in HD... No commercials no popups... If they do their 6-10 episodes 18-30$
I also heard the xfinity commercial a few times on the radio. So far...its the only paytv provider I know of,taking advantage of the situation. Screw them idiots...lol. The commercial starts with depressing music...and talks bout how dish is dropping amc...then cheerful music..and the "Ohh come to Xfinity where youll never lose channels"...lol. There prices r very very high to...they fail to mention that...and there hd quality sucks!!
Season 3 will be 16 episodes. I'm planning on buying the first half of Breaking Bad Season 5 (8 episodes) in sd ($1.89 each) if I have to from Amazon. I've already read The Walking Dead graphic novels, so I can wait for Season 3 to show up on Netflix sometime next year.
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They don't? That's why I see ads for Depends during friends and ads for ax body spray during murder she wrote. Advertisers do care about potential viewership. They want the most amount of people to see their ads, or pay less for lower viewing times. Potential viewership has everything to do with it. I'm not going to buy ad time for my denture cream during a show like the big bang theory or UFC on FOX.
Advertisers will either buy a specific show that has a target audience they want (Depends during Murder She Wrote/Ax during Friends) or buy 'Run of Schedule' (cheaper) and the network decides where the commercial will go. Potential viewership has very little if anything to do with it. Think about it... if everything was strictly subscriber based, the commercial cost would be the same at 2am as it is at 8pm. The 'potential' viewers are the same both times.
I'm referring to advertisers buying time known that an entire subscriber base is missing. They will ask for a discount if their ad is going to not reach a large group of viewers.
No, actually what you were talking about (whether you meant it or not) was advertisers picking their shows/networks based on target audiences (demos). That's why you might see a Depends commercial during 'Murder She Wrote' (your example). And, it doesn't matter how many subscribers a network has, if no one's watching, no one will see the ad.
That being said, assuming AMC goes off and stays off Dish, will advertisers who purchased Mad Men want a discount when the new season comes around? Sure.
Will the discount they get (if they get one) have a major impact on AMC? I don't think so.
