Just wait until next Monday. Many people probably won't realize the channels are gone until the season finales of Mad Men and The Killing don't record or aren't showing on the guide on Sunday. I know we can still get the channels but many customers won't be able to find them in the 9000s.
DISH Drops AMC Networks (AMC Back on DISH channel 131)
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Just wait until next Monday. Many people probably won't realize the channels are gone until the season finales of Mad Men and The Killing don't record or aren't showing on the guide on Sunday. I know we can still get the channels but many customers won't be able to find them in the 9000s.
That may end up being true, but things aren't all rosy on D* either. BBCA-HD is nowhere to be seen, and there aren't any indications that it will be this year, in spite of many requests for it.
but here's some math to consider. For me, AMC has 3 shows that I really want to see, and see as they are being shown. Hell on Wheels, The Walking Dead, and The Killing. I can buy them as a subscription to the current season for about a total of $90, which breaks down to $7.50/month. That is about 1/2 the cost differential between E* and D* with D* being about $15/month retail.
If you go to D*, of course you get some really good discounts for the first year, and a bit in the 2nd, which ameliorates it a bit.
So then, how popular can the channels really be, if most people don't notice they're gone until they show their 2hrs a week of original programming?
I'm sure there are some who watch the channel outside of their original programming. I am not one of them. Their original shows get good ratings for a cable channel.
Yeah, their viewership jumps way up on Sunday nights and then dips back down the rest of the week. There are still a lot of people that want to watch that block of programming every week though. HBOs also has a big ratings swing for their 2 hours of original programing on Sunday nights. I'm sure there are many other popular channels that are only highly watched on certain days of the week when their hit shows are on.
Do you have a money tree?
Yet, no one wants to believe this is all because of the lawsuit.
I think that was the point of the move.
Talk about being personal. Why don't YOU tone it down a few notches and quit poking at people. I counted more than six people making "noise" as you call it. You are also making the assumption that because there isn't dozens of people making noise, then most people could give a rats ass. I also get the impression that you think you are entitled to an opinion because you are a paid supportor, while people like myself and dtro77 should not express ours unless we pay to do so. Free speech is free -- you don't have to pay to be a supporter to get it.
When I emailed Charlie Ergen & Company, I told them that their vindictiveness is telling and because they are screwing with their customers, I hope they lose the lawsuit. Let it be a lesson to them. No company is too big to fail. Its not the stock holders keeping DISH in business.
That's what got me online at 4AM. I punched in 130, and TCM showed up. By 4:30AM, DISH's Facebook page and Twitter accounts were blowing up with complaints.
With everything that is going on with the lawsuit. I am willing to bet most that wanted to could make the case that DISH is not living up to its end of the deal. Granted, DISH controls the channel lineup, but I didn't see anything in the contract that said DISH could sh*t all over its customrs by dropping a family of channels because they were being sued by the parent network. What would DISH do if a class action started up because of their vindictiveness?
Me on the otherhand, I'd never sign another two year deal. They tried to get me to do that when everyone here was hopping all over hopper a few months ago. I wanted to buy a 311 I found new for $89. The rep said they could sell one to me for $100 + the two year contract. I told her to get bent. Why would I pay DISH $100 when I could get it for $89 and not sign a new contract?
AMC started airing the "Keep AMC" spots and crawls during last night's Mad Men. I guarantee that is the main reason for all of the sudden "likes" and comments.
EDIT: Plus, there's the move to the 9000's.
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Exactly. AMC management would be risking some pretty bad publicity and ill will if a memo, or any mass communication to employees, like that existed.I doubt todays Memo at Rainbow media was to post Dish Sucks all over their facebook page.
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Maybe AMC's Page but Not DishNetworks:
There was. It was on last night's episode of Mad Men during every commercial break, and a crawl that lasted for a few minutes after each commercial break so the auto-hoppers wouldn't miss it.
I don't know why the fanboys can't just accept the fact that AMC is a reasonably popular channel. It may not be a top 10 channel. But, it's comfortably embedded in the top 20. So, it's not unreasonable to assume that a lot of Dish customers will be upset if they drop it. It's not rocket surgery.
Dish Moderators are now responding to the complaints on Facebook with this canned response.
"Dish Network You can continue to watch your favorite programming on AMC (ch9609) and in HD on (ch9610) for the time being. We have relocated these channels to be in a channel location that is more reflective of the quality of programming.-Cheri T. "
If they feel those channels are poor quality why are the shopping channels and infomericals on lower numbered channels?
"Dish Network You can continue to watch your favorite programming on AMC (ch9609) and in HD on (ch9610) for the time being. We have relocated these channels to be in a channel location that is more reflective of the quality of programming.-Cheri T. "
If they feel those channels are poor quality why are the shopping channels and infomericals on lower numbered channels?
The "rallying cry" is coming from AMC via messages on FB to anyone that's "liked" Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, etc. Each of those is pushing people to use their provided link to complain to Dish and some would likely then also have "liked" Dish and simply "hop" over there (
) to voice their displeasure.
I guess that means the customers that like AMC are low quailty customers too. Yea great response!
Wow is all I can say, Who came up with that line!
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So they are telling fans of AMC shows who took the time to let Dish know they aren't happy about this that those shows you like aren't high quality. That should go a long ways towards making their upset customers happy again.
That is a pretty pathetic statement. And, this continued unprofessional, childish, and vindictive behavior only reinforces the perception that this dropping of the AMC networks is indeed personal, and not simply due to standard financial disagreements during contract negotiation.
I just sent the following email to card-shark Charlie:
This concerns your threats to remove AMC from your channel lineup. I see that you have now moved AMC HD from channel 130 to 9610. That means I now have to remember the new four-digit channel number and according your customer service department I must reprogram my DVR to record new shows on the new channel number.
If your goal is to piss off longtime customers then you certainly have succeeded. There are several shows I watch on AMC HD. If you drop it I drop you.
Stop your madness with your disputes with AMC -- keep AMC HD and move it back to channel 130.
The only ones who are being hurt by your stupid disputes are your customers.
There are other good choices for TV service...don't further entice me to switch to DirecTV.
This concerns your threats to remove AMC from your channel lineup. I see that you have now moved AMC HD from channel 130 to 9610. That means I now have to remember the new four-digit channel number and according your customer service department I must reprogram my DVR to record new shows on the new channel number.
If your goal is to piss off longtime customers then you certainly have succeeded. There are several shows I watch on AMC HD. If you drop it I drop you.
Stop your madness with your disputes with AMC -- keep AMC HD and move it back to channel 130.
The only ones who are being hurt by your stupid disputes are your customers.
There are other good choices for TV service...don't further entice me to switch to DirecTV.
Looks like they gave up on the totally unprofessional canned response pretty quickly. Here is the new one.
"Hello John, rest assured, you can continue to watch your favorite programming on AMC, IFC and/or WEtv for the time being. DISH is committed to fighting on your behalf to provide you with the best programming and the lowest possible price. Unfortunately, to get access to a few more popular shows on AMC, they are requiring us to purchase other, less popular channels that are not a value that our customers have come to expect.
1. IFC is available on ch. 9607
2. WEtv is available on ch.9608
3. AMC is available on ch. 9609 - Mark H"
"Hello John, rest assured, you can continue to watch your favorite programming on AMC, IFC and/or WEtv for the time being. DISH is committed to fighting on your behalf to provide you with the best programming and the lowest possible price. Unfortunately, to get access to a few more popular shows on AMC, they are requiring us to purchase other, less popular channels that are not a value that our customers have come to expect.
1. IFC is available on ch. 9607
2. WEtv is available on ch.9608
3. AMC is available on ch. 9609 - Mark H"
No need for Dish to reply with a comment like that (assuming it's true) about quality of programming and placement. It is why even those of us who agree future cost of AMC is a real issue, we agree it is driven by the lawsuit.
The new response adds a different wrinkle, one that Dish has fought before. Sounds like Dish does not want one of, or some of IFC, Sundance, WE. And AMC is requiring all or none. Very possible that was the proposal from Dish - we can talk about an increase for AMC, but want to drop other channels and not incurr that cost.
The new response adds a different wrinkle, one that Dish has fought before. Sounds like Dish does not want one of, or some of IFC, Sundance, WE. And AMC is requiring all or none. Very possible that was the proposal from Dish - we can talk about an increase for AMC, but want to drop other channels and not incurr that cost.
