DISH Drops AMC Networks (AMC Back on DISH channel 131)

One of the few topics that generated at least as much was the Distants problems with Dish, and the subsequent "F.U". Charlie gave them when he got AAD, which in effect allowed even more customers to get Distants, and the Court said it was legal.
 
One of the few topics that generated at least as much was the Distants problems with Dish, and the subsequent "F.U". Charlie gave them when he got AAD, which in effect allowed even more customers to get Distants, and the Court said it was legal.
The SD versions were crappy PQ and cost $10-13 per month for the entire fleet depending on the years you bought them, and if memory serves me right , the HD version were very expensive,

This is one case where charlie says we are not paying the networks and F off, but now the customer is stuck with Buying AAD at your the customers expence.

So you claim still Dish is fighting the networks for you. When really its to maximize proffits for himself at your expense.


Why should it cost you Guys $15 per month for the big 4 , when you already pay a provider that should provide you with local channels. After all it is 2012. Not 1995
 
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The SD versions were crappy PQ and cost $10-13 per month for the entire fleet depending on the years you bought them, and if memory serves me right , the HD version were very expensive, This is one case where charlie says we are not paying the networks and F off, but now the customer is stuck with Buying AAD at your the customers expence.So you claim still Dish is fighting the networks for you. When really its to maximize proffits for himself at your expense.Why should it cost you Guys $15 per month for the big 4 , when you already pay a provider that should provide you with local channels. After all it is 2012. Not 1995
Honestly, nothing any of these tv providers do is to benefit the customer. It's to maximize profit. If it's beneficial to the customer as a side effect, then that's a bonus. One thing Dish could do if it really wanted to help it's customers would be to get rid of the monthly "access" fee on owned equipment. But we know that sure isn't happening!
 
Honestly, nothing any of these tv providers do is to benefit the customer. It's to maximize profit. If it's beneficial to the customer as a side effect, then that's a bonus. One thing Dish could do if it really wanted to help it's customers would be to get rid of the monthly "access" fee on owned equipment. But we know that sure isn't happening!

I would have to say wrong on both counts. Just one example, Dish allowing use of HBO GO on the Roku. Those of us who use it, it has promoted good will, not anything really in profit for Dish. Direct TV does not allow, (or didn't last time I looked) possibly to keep you using their box and not some competition.
As for the access fee, are you willing to have package prices raised to cover dropping that? There's a business model, use of fees is how Dish does it, yet, they are less than virtually any provider in most cases.If you change one thing it affects something else. You want that fee dropped, someone wants a channel in their package, etc.. etc.. it all affects the total overall cost.
I have long thought Dish actually does what some seem to think should happen, those who have less money can get a good package with one maybe two good receivers for less than just about anyone else offers. You want six receivers, yes it may be more than maybe Direct TV. But again, that's their business model.
 
Honestly, nothing any of these tv providers do is to benefit the customer. It's to maximize profit. If it's beneficial to the customer as a side effect, then that's a bonus. One thing Dish could do if it really wanted to help it's customers would be to get rid of the monthly "access" fee on owned equipment. But we know that sure isn't happening!

Honestly, I was quite content paying $10.00 per month for Platinum channels. Next thing I knew, I had BB@Home with it's perks. They are not getting an additional penny from me for it...they are getting some good will.
 
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The SD versions were crappy PQ and cost $10-13 per month for the entire fleet depending on the years you bought them, and if memory serves me right , the HD version were very expensive,

This is one case where charlie says we are not paying the networks and F off, but now the customer is stuck with Buying AAD at your the customers expence.

So you claim still Dish is fighting the networks for you. When really its to maximize proffits for himself at your expense.


Why should it cost you Guys $15 per month for the big 4 , when you already pay a provider that should provide you with local channels. After all it is 2012. Not 1995

I'm going to be honest, some of what you said is either just wrong, or to me makes no sense. The PQ for SD is fine. I am happy to be able to get the West Coast news and later time shows, even in SD. But that's not even the real point, other than RV's at one time (no longer - Dish gives RV's Networks now) at no time was or is AAD meant to replace networks because Dish wouldn't pay something or because of any contract dispute. AAD is only an addition to getting your local networks that Dish provides. So your rant is based on complete wrong information. And you left out, if you pay $14 it's for both coasts, eight channels. Only each individual can decide if that is worth it or not, but again, it has nothing whatsoever to do with getting the locals, it's an elective addition to getting your locals that Dish provides, a service by the way no one else offers........... Like Superstations, just yet another benefit of Dish :D:D
 
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I would have to say wrong on both counts. Just one example, Dish allowing use of HBO GO on the Roku. Those of us who use it, it has promoted good will, not anything really in profit for Dish. Direct TV does not allow, (or didn't last time I looked) possibly to keep you using their box and not some competition.As for the access fee, are you willing to have package prices raised to cover dropping that? There's a business model, use of fees is how Dish does it, yet, they are less than virtually any provider in most cases.If you change one thing it affects something else. You want that fee dropped, someone wants a channel in their package, etc.. etc.. it all affects the total overall cost. I have long thought Dish actually does what some seem to think should happen, those who have less money can get a good package with one maybe two good receivers for less than just about anyone else offers. You want six receivers, yes it may be more than maybe Direct TV. But again, that's their business model.
Dish isn't alone in allowing HBOGO on the Roku (they also allow EpixHD on it too). So there is pressure to compete with other services. Yes, DirectTV doesn't allow HBOGO on the Roku, but they are in the small minority. My mom subscribes to Wide Open West (a smaller cableco) and even they allow that.I'm not talking about channel packages, so don't try to confuse the issue. Do you really think a customer with multiple stb's is more expensive to supply service to than a customer with only one stb? Dish could do what cabelcos do with Tivos. Charge a reduced rate to someone with owned equipment. And the cabelcos even supply equipment (i.e. cable cards) at that reduced rate.
 
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Honestly, I was quite content paying $10.00 per month for Platinum channels. Next thing I knew, I had BB@Home with it's perks. They are not getting an additional penny from me for it...they are getting some good will.
I certainly enjoyed the upgrade myself. But looking back at it. This was a move for retention purposes. Dish didn't need BB to include "On Demand" to their service. But they did get it at a dirt cheap price and are leveraging the brand for their customers. Since Dish has incorporated BB into it's service, it certainly has retained customers at a higher rate than it did before the purchase. Remember retained customers are more profitable than new ones. As I mentioned a "side benefit".
 

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