So how much profit margin is "allowed" before someone gets "greedy"?I base my "greedy" claims on profit margins. Typically (not always), the content owner conglomerate has profit margins 2-3 times higher than Dish's, or any MVPD. It's not hard to look up.
https://ycharts.com/companies/CMCSA/profit_margin
https://ycharts.com/companies/DISH/profit_margin
Neither of those were really a loss.
So how much profit margin is "allowed" before someone gets "greedy"?
Yep, more US vs Them posts.....and here comes the political rhetoric again
They got all access to TiVo tech out of that lawsuit for less. The other saved them $200M over if they still carried Voom to contract end so yes, they came out on top.Your right, not a loss at all, it is only $1.2 Billion dollars both lawsuits added together.
c'mon. it's all relative. I won't be baited by the strawman.So how much profit margin is "allowed" before someone gets "greedy"?
So how much profit margin is "allowed" before someone gets "greedy"?
I wish we could go one thread without people harping on about the Whig Party.....and here comes the political rhetoric again
Greed is good. this is America.So how much profit margin is "allowed" before someone gets "greedy"?
Ah... the eighties.Greed is good. this is America.
It was (sort of) a rhetorical question. Obviously everyone has their own "line" on how much is too much, but I guarantee that line will be above what they're making. IMO, on something optional (and televised entertainment qualifies IMO), the consumer gets to decide how much is too much. Unfortunately, we (MVPD subscribers) don't get to choose how much the MVPD pays for the content. That's no different than buying something from a grocery store. If a store pays too much for milk, when they pass that cost on to the consumer (and increasing it for profit), the consumer can decide whether to pay that price or not. If consumers don't buy the milk from the grocery store, the store won't buy from the vendor. Isn't that "free market"?c'mon. it's all relative. I won't be baited by the strawman.
or the asinine rhetoric of other posters.
edit: what Tampa said below.
What Tivo tech Chad?They got all access to TiVo tech out of that lawsuit for less. The other saved them $200M over if they still carried Voom to contract end so yes, they came out on top.
Agree, Dish is just as greedy as the next guy.As far as I know, the only people in America who aren't greedy are NBA basketball players and Hollywood left-wing Actors and Actresses. Everyone else is greedy, including the big oil companies and Comcast and Dish.
Again, this is a tangent at best, and a bad analogy. All I'm saying is I would choose sides based on which company appears to be the greedier one based on historical financials. If the numbers were reversed I would surely side on the NBCU/Comcast side.It was (sort of) a rhetorical question. Obviously everyone has their own "line" on how much is too much, but I guarantee that line will be above what they're making. IMO, on something optional (and televised entertainment qualifies IMO), the consumer gets to decide how much is too much. Unfortunately, we (MVPD subscribers) don't get to choose how much the MVPD pays for the content. That's no different than buying something from a grocery store. If a store pays too much for milk, when they pass that cost on to the consumer (and increasing it for profit), the consumer can decide whether to pay that price or not. If consumers don't buy the milk from the grocery store, the store won't buy from the vendor. Isn't that "free market"?
I don't disagree. But that's an issue to bring up with our government for allowing the merger.But it has to be an even playing field. If Comcast did not have it's own cable company then yes, no different than Viacom DISH can negotiate then decide they don't want to pay the price. No one would be forcing either side to do business with each other.
But when that programming is owned by a Cable competitor who gains by making it harder for their competition to carry that programming, in this case DISH that hurts the consumer as much as it does DISH.
And it was brought up by most MVPD provider (sans comcast) to the FCC and FTC before the merger was allowed.I don't disagree. But that's an issue to bring up with our government for allowing the merger.
OK, I can believe that. Now, is Comcast charging the other mvpds an outrageous amount for the channels, or a cost inline with what other channels are getting?And it was brought up by most MVPD provider (sans comcast) to the FCC and FTC before the merger was allowed.