I'm talking front page pounding here in Phoenix. Bar owners, patrons and home viewers PO'd to the max that "D" still doesn't have the PAC-12 available. I know all the reasons given by "D" but they are known as "The Sports Network". I imagine missing the ASU huge home town victory over arch rival Arizona made the feelings even worse.
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Hmm,
You mean that these BIG GAMES are not shown on the LOCAL network ?
The majority of the Conference Networks like this don't show the BIG games anyways as far as Football goes.
Check 506sports.com for local coverage, if the game is blacked out or not in your local area. Just like the pro sports, Collegiate sports are also blacked out in local markets. Here soon though, that may change in 2014-2015, once Congress gets the bill pushed through, to stop the mass/little market black-outs.
As for the big games, the replays would be on the RSN's, or if out of market, would be shown on either those or ESPN. Otherwise, it would be shown on one of the national channels (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), or ESPN.
Like I stated above, use 506sports.com for looking up who is playing and what network they will be shown on. The best thing is, that the site puts up a map, with a legend, for the network coverage.
As for the big games, the replays would be on the RSN's, or if out of market, would be shown on either those or ESPN. Otherwise, it would be shown on one of the national channels (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), or ESPN.
Like I stated above, use 506sports.com for looking up who is playing and what network they will be shown on. The best thing is, that the site puts up a map, with a legend, for the network coverage.
To be honest with you ...
As far as Football goes, I turn the BTN on twice a year ... those are the two times a year that a Buckeyes game is on the Network according to BTN rules.
Now if you follow a teams that is not a Top team that is covered locally it's different ... yes, those games are available on the BTN.
I checked the506.com..Apparently the local affiliates, and FOX1 elected to disregard the game. ESPN may not have a contract with the PAC 12. Don't know if Fox network has a deal with the PAC 12 either.
I guess the game was not that big of a deal that the above mentioned outlets decided they could not sell enough ads to warrant the expense of showing the game.
This is the problem with these new sports nets that feature limited conferences or team owned outlets. The grab games and make them exclusive to the actual outlet. If a provider elects to not negotiate a deal with the new channel, fans lose viewing opportunities. They hate it. It's a bunch of crap, but that's the yv business.
Directv can only show channels to which they are contracted.
It could be that the PAC 12 network is demanding too much money. Or Directv does not see the value of the channel in a cost versus available programming.
To be frank, most of the NCAA based networks show very little sports programming that is directed to large audiences. For example, I saw that the BIG 10 network was showing women's college volleyball. Providers may see that as of little value to the majority of their subscribers. So with these services showing programming to what would be a very small audience, they have to examine the cost of picking up the service.
The SEC is about to start it's own network. So there could be an issue there with contract negotiations. Due ot the strength of the conference, The SEC is likely to demand a fairly expensive per subscriber rate. But if the channel is going to show stuff like coaches shows and niche sports, it will be a struggle. The network may not be picked up by certain providers. Evedn here in the southeast. That will anger some fans who bleed their school colors. But the value of the channel is only as good as the capture rate of the largest audience.
Here's the rub. Sports programming costs are out of control. It may get so serious that no providers will pick up these new services and may even tell existing ones to go pound sand.
It would be better if sports programming were placed in all sports tiers. This way non sports fans can avoid paying for them. Unfortunately, these sports service managements know darned well if their services are placed in a specific tier, their buy rates will be much lower. So they fight to get on lower tiers. And usually win. I think this is going to reach a tipping point as even sports fans are getting sick of the high per sub rates.
Pay per view could be on the horizon for most sports. Could be.
The issue with the Pac12 is there are like 8 of them
national feed
regional feeds
and they want Directv to carry ALL of them......even though 96 percent of the time they show the same thing
national feed
regional feeds
and they want Directv to carry ALL of them......even though 96 percent of the time they show the same thing
That is absolutely the point. You must understand that for sporting events to be shown on TV the event must have an audience that makes it worth the dollars paid by advertisers. If the game in question has little ad value, the game will most likely not be picked up.
That's why for example the Big Ten network will carry but TWO Ohio State games. Because those particular match ups have little value other than to the most die hard of fans.
So when Ohio St plays Indiana, there might be 50 to 100,000 viewers in Ohio and over in Indiana. Little if any interest outside of those two places
Well that's not gonna fly. Especially if the PAC 12 demands national carriage.
I just checked. Dish has it. Only one channel though.
correct. But on the weekends when there are more than one game on those feeds then they (Dish) have a part time channel.
Thats how Directv does it with the BTN.....one national feed and up to 4 alt feeds during football only.
Looking at the list of games (mens b-ball) they need those feeds every now and then (like once a week tops)...maybe there are "other" sports during that time that you need the extra channels
Thats how Directv does it with the BTN.....one national feed and up to 4 alt feeds during football only.
Looking at the list of games (mens b-ball) they need those feeds every now and then (like once a week tops)...maybe there are "other" sports during that time that you need the extra channels
Dish has 6 PAC-12 Channels. As far as the importance of the game, well I guess that's always in the eye of the beholder. The ASU vs Arizona game is referred to as The Territorial Cup and is the single oldest documented rivalry game in the US starting in the late 1800's. Last weekends game ended with ASU 58 Arizona 21. At stake for ASU was a trip to the PAC-12 championship game against Stanford (both teams 10-2) with the winner representing the PAC-12 in the Rose Bowl against either Ohio State or Michigan State. The bold headlines in the Paper stated Directv was causing its subs to miss the most important game in years for locals and the Sports Bars were chiming in concerning the business they would lose to competitors using Dish or Cox. This type of article has been in the paper many times since the beginning of the college football season. "D" states that they don't want to pay that much while the competition feels it's worth the asking price. To each his own. I'm just saying that a lot of folks were upset and didn't mind saying so, a lot.
The city and the schools should be ashamed of them selves for not being available on the Over the air channels.
When teams play in the Big Ten, the game is either on espn/2 or the local ABC. Most of the time it's the local ABC.
That said, FOX must have paid to get the BT Championship game .... see theres a BIG game, NOT on the Conference Network, but on Locally so everyone has the opportunity to see it.
the networks pick what game is shown where. Each week its a pecking order. I think ESPN gets dibs on 1st two games, then BTN (Or PAC12 or SEC Network) gets 3rd then so on.
Pac12 games shown on network TV this past week
-Washington/Washington St on Fox
-Stanford was on Fox (against Notre Dame)
-USC/UCLA on ABC
Oregon/Oregon State was on FS1
Pac12 had Colorado/Utah and ASU/Arizona
Honestly looking at the past few weeks of the Pac12 schedule the "marquee" games were always elsewhere....ESPN/ESPN2/ABC/FOX. Pac12 had the "leftover" games
I think directv almost has an obligation to carry PAC12. It's a little pathetic when they got exclusive on the NFL ticket but can't carry all the college football games.
Personally I could care less about any college sports, especially the big 10 network.
It's just a big money grab from the universities if you ask me
Personally I could care less about any college sports, especially the big 10 network.
It's just a big money grab from the universities if you ask me
It's actually a rotating lotto / draft by week as per NCAA TV contract. I remember getting explained this when I worked at BTN.
example.
ESPN has 1st dibbs
CBS has 2nd.
Fox has 3rd.
BTN has 4th.
The cycle starts over again until all games are filled for that week. Each network also can get priority on games and they only have so many of them as per contract. So if there is a game that ESPN or BTN really wants they can claim priority over other networks. So it becomes like a draft pick and the games they carry. After they hit their limit they are out and are only reserved to what is available to their spot, so if another network claims priority for that week and they are out of pics, then they are SOL. Also if two networks claim priority on the same game the network who is higher up has 1st dibs. It rotates where 1st goes to 2nd, 2nd goes to 3rd, 4th goes to 1st, ect.
Week 2
BTN has 1st
ESPN has 2nd
CBS has 3rd
Fox has 4th.
It keeps cycling like this through out the season. That's why you may see BTN have an awesome big ten game for one week and s**t games the next. This is how it works for the Big ten conf. SEC and other conferences may be different.
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some of my Wolverine games are on Big Ten network, and almost all the rest on are on an espn channel. we only get like 1 or 2 UM games a year on locals, and i'm only 40 mins from The Big House. I hate it, i hate the The Big Ten signed a deal with espn, all the UM games should be on locals, it's ridiculous that espn moves them to cable so people have to pay to see them.
However, you can find all your games on either espns or the local network, with the exception of a few low level games that go to the BTN.
Ohio State is the same way, either on espns or ABC locally. (outside of the 2 game BTN commitment.)
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