City to fine residents for non working satellite dishes

easier to leave the LNB in place so no one will know if the dish is in use:)

when i was selling dish it always bugged me, that new subs objected loudly to a coax on their home, the home is brick so we dont want any holes drilled in it, yeah but look at all the stuff attached to your home currently. theres a remote reading water meter, telephone cable and NID....

how is a dish any different?
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I was told recently by an installer that Dish doesn't give them information on whether dishes are active or not. I live in a 4-plex that had 8 dishes on the roof. When the installer was here, he said he had no way of knowing which were active without knocking on doors. Also, even if one was proven to be inactive, they weren't allowed to remove it. The mess on the roof got so out of hand that my landlord paid me $100 to take down all the inactive dishes. I removed the dishes, the poles and left the base attached.


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The only way to really tell is if the LNB is missing, the alignment looks like it's really off, or if there are no wires going to it.

I just laugh when I drive by a house and see a dish network dish with a missing LNB. You know for a fact the home owner or tenant no longer has dish.

It's a really stupid policy on dish networks behalf. Return the LNB, but it's easy to see which customers think their service is crap and disconnect.
 
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size?

the fios box that was on the side of my home is about the size of a dish 500/.

i had a big hassle with fios and demanded they remove the box, had them remove everything verizon related. icluding thre copper drop. the fios drop and box.

its against company policy, i said its my house and remove everything or i am putting up a permanent sign in my yard, verizon fios sucks.

the verizon tech removed eveerything and said i was not the only one...........
 
size?

the fios box that was on the side of my home is about the size of a dish 500/.

i had a big hassle with fios and demanded they remove the box, had them remove everything verizon related. icluding thre copper drop. the fios drop and box.

its against company policy, i said its my house and remove everything or i am putting up a permanent sign in my yard, verizon fios sucks.

the verizon tech removed eveerything and said i was not the only one...........
I agree..but its not an eyesore like a dish is
 
The only way to really tell is if the LNB is missing, the alignment looks like it's really off, or if there are no wires going to it.

I just laugh when I drive by a house and see a dish network dish with a missing LNB. You know for a fact the home owner or tenant no longer has dish.

It's a really stupid policy on dish networks behalf. Return the LNB, but it's easy to see which customers think their service is crap and disconnect.
Or they could have simply moved. Not everyone has a HO for Dish like you do.
 
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If the customer moves, dish does not penalize the customer by requiring the LNB back. They send out a tech with a new Dish on the dish mover. Only if you cancel service they want the LNB back.

That's kind of logical. If a customer moves, that means a potential new customer or another "mover" may be moving into the vacated premise and could use the dish left behind. If a customer cancels service, there's not likely to be anyone at that location to use the old dish.
 
I have two Dish Network dishes on my house. One of them is a Dish 1000+ for the full Western Arc, including internationals from 118, that I use for most of my receivers. I also have a Dish 1000.4 for the full Eastern Arc. The only receiver I currently have connected to that dish is a deactivated ViP211k that I occasionally use for watching free preview channels and OTA channels. I wonder how they would categorize my Dish 1000.4 for purposes of this regulation. :whistle(It doesn't matter because I don't live in Easton, PA. I was just curious.)
 
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I have two Dish Network dishes on my house. One of them is a Dish 1000+ for the full Western Arc, including internationals from 118, that I use for most of my receivers. I also have a Dish 1000.4 for the full Eastern Arc. The only receiver I currently have connected to that dish is a deactivated ViP211k that I occasionally use for watching free preview channels and OTA channels. I wonder how they would categorize my Dish 1000.4 for purposes of this regulation. :whistle(It doesn't matter because I don't live in Easton, PA. I was just curious.)

Does a deactivated 211k still receive program guide data for your OTA channels?


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Sure does and has for a few months now, since DISH changed the requirement that you have to be subscribed to satellite service to get guide data for the ota channels. I have an old 211k that I haven't had subscribed to DISH , but hooked up to a second satellite dish since 2012, and it shows all the guide data that you can get from DISH on the main 4 networks and some of the sub channels.
 
I agree..but its not an eyesore like a dish is

so your cable drop is attractive

the NID for the phone looks pretty

the outdoor fios box is certinally attractive

hey the water meter transponder beautifies the neighborhood....

they are all utilities. how about all the aerial wires that are in most neighborhoods??
 
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hey the gas meter also adds a level of beauty/ i paint it every few years when the lines get rusty/

comcast runs cable lines from basement till 2nd floors, up the side of homes. way easier than fishing. neighbors really appreciate the beauty this adds:)
 
so your cable drop is attractive

the NID for the phone looks pretty

the outdoor fios box is certinally attractive

hey the water meter transponder beautifies the neighborhood....

they are all utilities. how about all the aerial wires that are in most neighborhoods??

What are aerial wires? Are you talking about power and telephone lines? I was just wondering, because I sometimes call (and it is still quite frequently used here, especially by older people) an "antenna" an "aerial" like they do in Britain.


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I believe you are correct. I'm guessing that that city council is unaware of that FCC regulation.
Actually, I'm sure the city knows about the FCC regulations as their City Attorney most likley informed them, but like a lot of municipal governments they are arrogant and count on the more likely fact that most of the public don't know about the FCC regulations, and most will cower in fear and likley comply with the law and take down those unused reflectors. Meanwhile the city will happily act against FCC regulations until the FCC orders them to STOP. That is often how the game is played: "Yeah, it's illegal, but until we are ordered otherwise, we can do what we want, and in that meantime we can get a lot of those reflectors taken down until the Federal Govt tells us otherwise."

Also, how does will the city determine which reflectors are "not in use"? It's one of those ordinances that hopes to intimidate those who don't know better and do nothing regarding those who do know better. OR one of those municipal ordinances that simply can't be enforced. I know cities where you must have any central A/C compressor unit "out of sight from view of street or in a [housing] if viewed from street." I can tell you that in those cities nearly ZERO comply. In fact, most people encounter city enforcement only after neighbors report "offenders." This includes height limit for walls and all sorts of other obvious violations from the street. Most often it is businesses or commercial property that city enforcement mostly focuses on. Like a lot of cities, it is a code intended to intimidate rather than allow enforcement. And one has to wonder of local cable companies are behind this. As stated in another post, sat dishes are not nearly the eyesore of overhead wires and billiards and just plain bad design of ugly storefronts or buildings and signs.

This law will go nowhere because it wold be difficult to enforce and, except only in the most obvious of cases, IMPOSSIBLE to verify, without storming into someone's home, and that aint possible in this country for this ordinance.
 
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They own the LNB because it needs to be returned

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The last several installs I've had, they have thrown the reflector (if necessary to exchange) and all the LNBF's and switches (if necessary to be changed) out in MY GARBAGE bin. I don't believe Dish refurbs ANY of that equipment because it is often weather worn and CHEAPER to use NEW ones with better reliability. Now, independant contractors may take the used equipment and re-sue, but not Dish corp installers. Dish wants the LNBF's back to prevent piracy. However, they can't really press the issue, so if one protests enough (too old, too high up), the fee for LNBF's not being returned can be waived. Sat cos. don't dare push the LNBF's return policy too hard or they know state or federal law will be passed explicitly preventing them from "requiring" return of LNBF. They just hope people return them or they don't question LNBF non-return fees and just pay and shut up. Which is how must of these matters in life depend upon.
 

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