The channels you find in the 70's (HD) are there for our convenience. Really? so what's convenient about it? why not show NFLHD on 212 as opposed to 98,99 whatever it is and I don't think HBOHD on 509 is HD, is it? (don't pay for that crap so I don't know)..........kinda like ESPN on 207, 209 whatever is it is and TNTHD on 245......same programing, different format. but anyway, I watched the idol extra and it didn't appear to be in HD to me. looked good but may be because it was filmed in HD as opposed to all the upconvertiing having to be done.