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[Jimbo]

Well I have played it out any which way, it seems the bucks come up short either direction you want to take it.

And bandwagoning? How exactly? Because we root for each other in most cases out of conference?
Have you guys not figured out yet that a strong conference when your TEAM is good increases your chance of making the NC game? Hell, the sheer fact that the conference is strong (or division) might get TWO SEC teams from the same division in the BCS NC game this year. Keep rooting team only, we will keep smiling in a knowing manner.

Why does Bama barely show up when it comes to Big time Games ? (as in being there ?)

 

[Jimbo]

The entire last few pages really should be in the NCAA thread as it has NOTHING at all to do with the thread topic.

 

[Ronnie-]

I have addressed Ohio State and their BCS appearances already. It comes as an extension of not playing in as strong of a conference (until recently id say) as the SEC.
Whereas the Big Ten has Ohio State and their many BCS bowls, the SEC has mutliple teams, with greater results (greater number of BCS championships), which only helps getting another SEC team (or two) there next year.

And again, Most bowl appearances, and most bowl wins, plus more national championships. It aint Ohio State. Ill give you one guess.

Edit: we also have as many "BCS championships" despite going to fewer BCS bowls as Ohio State.

 

[Ronnie-]

Why does Bama barely show up when it comes to Big time Games ? (as in being there ?)

Why does Ohio State barely show up when they play the SEC?

 

[Jimbo]

I have addressed Ohio State and their BCS appearances already. It comes as an extension of not playing in as strong of a conference (until recently id say) as the SEC.
Whereas the Big Ten has Ohio State and their many BCS bowls, the SEC has mutliple teams, with greater results (greater number of BCS championships), which only helps getting another SEC team (or two) there next year.

And again, Most bowl appearances, and most bowl wins, plus more national championships. It aint Ohio State. Ill give you one guess.

Most appearances are.

However, your forgetting, regardless of how weak you think the Big Ten is, you still get 2 teams in per year regardless, so your Bama team just hasn't played well enough to be in the top 2 of your conference often enough.

 

[Ronnie-]

The entire last few pages really should be in the NCAA thread as it has NOTHING at all to do with the thread topic.

Might have a point here.
It was a natural progression of the discussion though I think.

 

[Ronnie-]

Most appearances are.

However, your forgetting, regardless of how weak you think the Big Ten is, you still get 2 teams in per year regardless, so your Bama team just hasn't played well enough to be in the top 2 of your conference often enough.

You are right, many years we are not (some years we are), because the conference is most years, far more tough top to bottom. Which has been my whole point for arguing conference supremacy.

 

[cybok0]

My 2 favorite teams are Ohio State and whoever beats Michigan.

For me it use to be Pitt and who ever plays Penn State, now it's who ever plays West Virginia.

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[Jimbo]

Why does Ohio State barely show up when they play the SEC?

At least they make it to the game.

 

[Ronnie-]

At least they make it to the game.

Then get exposed

Ok, ive yanked your chain enough. lol. Enjoy your saturday.

 

[Jimbo]

At least they make it to the game.

Then get exposed

Ok, ive yanked your chain enough. lol. Enjoy your saturday.

Rather get there and lose than NEVER get there.

As for my Saturday, it will be UGLY.

 

[tigerfan33]

Rather get there and lose than NEVER get there.

You mean you would rather be the Buffalo Bills of college football.

 

[Jimbo]

You mean you would rather be the Buffalo Bills of college football.

If I had the choice to get to and play in a Super Bowl and lose, or NEVER get to one .... Yes.

Wouldn't you ?

First,it shows that I had a very good team, one capable of playing very good ball, enough to make it thru the playoffs to the SB.

Same goes for MNC 's.

Btw, your conveniently forgetting that they have WON it as well.

LSU and Flordia have 2 WINS, Ohio State has 1 as well, if you haven't Won one then OSU is above all of the rest.
Were talking current times, BCS wise.

 

[Jimbo]

You want to back aways ?

Below is a list of all of the CFBDW recognized national championships from 1869 to present.
School Championships Seasons
Princeton 26 1869, 1870, 1872, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877, 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1889, 1893, 1896, 1898, 1899, 1903, 1906, 1911, 1920, 1922, 1933, 1935
Yale 18 1874, 1876, 1877, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, 1887, 1888, 1891, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1907, 1909, 1927
Notre Dame 13 1919, 1924, 1929, 1930, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1964, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Alabama 12 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009
Michigan 11 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997
USC 10 1928, 1931, 1932, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Pittsburgh 9 1910, 1915, 1916, 1918, 1929, 1931, 1936, 1937, 1976
Harvard 8 1875, 1890, 1898, 1899, 1910, 1912, 1913, 1919
Ohio State 7 1942, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002
Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
Minnesota 6 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
Penn 6 1894, 1895, 1897, 1904, 1907, 1908
Army 5 1914, 1916, 1944, 1945, 1946
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
California 4 1920, 1921, 1922, 1937
Georgia Tech 4 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990
Illinois 4 1914, 1919, 1923, 1927
LSU 4 1908, 1958, 2003, 2007
Michigan St 4 1951, 1952, 1965, 1966
Penn State 4 1911, 1912, 1982, 1986
Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
Auburn 3 1913, 1957, 2010
Cornell 3 1915, 1921, 1922
Florida 3 1996, 2006, 2008
Lafayette 3 1896, 1921, 1926
FSU 2 1993, 1999
Georgia 2 1942, 1980
Mississippi 2 1960, 1962
Texas A&M 2 1919, 1939
Arkansas 1 1964
Boston College 1 1940
BYU 1 1984
Chicago 1 1905
Clemson 1 1981
Colorado 1 1990
Dartmouth 1 1925
Iowa 1 1958
Maryland 1 1953
SMU 1 1935
Stanford 1 1926
Syracuse 1 1959
TCU 1 1938
UCLA 1 1954
Washington 1 1991
[edit] Poll era (1936–present)


Not many SEC teams in the top 20.

 

[The Insider]

If I had the choice to get to and play in a Super Bowl and lose, or NEVER get to one .... Yes.

Wouldn't you ?

First,it shows that I had a very good team, one capable of playing very good ball, enough to make it thru the playoffs to the SB.

Same goes for MNC 's.

Btw, your conveniently forgetting that they have WON it as well.

LSU and Flordia have 2 WINS, Ohio State has 1 as well, if you haven't Won one then OSU is above all of the rest.
Were talking current times, BCS wise.

Well not really, Beacuse in college winning the Big 10 is like winning say the AFC West. Except that OSU are the Patriots playing in the AFC West.. Sure you win the AFC west every year (ala the big 10) But really did you do much?

And as far as the SEC Goes LSU, FLA, Bama, Auburn, and Tenn have all won a BCS title. (some 2) Where as the Big 10 is well, OSU. (Every now and again someone else if OSU is having a bad year). But for the most part its dam near a shoe in for OSU. Thats starting to change though. The Big 12 you have Texas and Oklahoma. So those two teams split the fun. The Pac12 of course was USC all day. Now Oregon and Stanford seem to be picking up some slack. But Stanford without Andrew luck? The ACC Well ya had Miami twice with 1 win, and VTech once with a loss.

In the SEC in the BCS Era you have had 5 Teams be in the mix, All of which winning the game when they made it (and Auburn should really of had 2 titles but whos counting right?)

So really hard for say FLA or LSU or any of the likes to rack up the sheer number of BCS games that OSU has been to because the path to get there is so much harder. Just look at this year when you have easily 4 Contenders for just 2 BCS slots.

 

[The Insider]

You want to back aways ?

Below is a list of all of the CFBDW recognized national championships from 1869 to present.
School Championships Seasons
Princeton 26 1869, 1870, 1872, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877, 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1889, 1893, 1896, 1898, 1899, 1903, 1906, 1911, 1920, 1922, 1933, 1935
Yale 18 1874, 1876, 1877, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, 1887, 1888, 1891, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1907, 1909, 1927
Notre Dame 13 1919, 1924, 1929, 1930, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1964, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Alabama 12 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009
Michigan 11 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997
USC 10 1928, 1931, 1932, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Pittsburgh 9 1910, 1915, 1916, 1918, 1929, 1931, 1936, 1937, 1976
Harvard 8 1875, 1890, 1898, 1899, 1910, 1912, 1913, 1919
Ohio State 7 1942, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002
Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
Minnesota 6 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
Penn 6 1894, 1895, 1897, 1904, 1907, 1908
Army 5 1914, 1916, 1944, 1945, 1946
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
California 4 1920, 1921, 1922, 1937
Georgia Tech 4 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990
Illinois 4 1914, 1919, 1923, 1927
LSU 4 1908, 1958, 2003, 2007
Michigan St 4 1951, 1952, 1965, 1966
Penn State 4 1911, 1912, 1982, 1986
Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
Auburn 3 1913, 1957, 2010
Cornell 3 1915, 1921, 1922
Florida 3 1996, 2006, 2008
Lafayette 3 1896, 1921, 1926
FSU 2 1993, 1999
Georgia 2 1942, 1980
Mississippi 2 1960, 1962
Texas A&M 2 1919, 1939
Arkansas 1 1964
Boston College 1 1940
BYU 1 1984
Chicago 1 1905
Clemson 1 1981
Colorado 1 1990
Dartmouth 1 1925
Iowa 1 1958
Maryland 1 1953
SMU 1 1935
Stanford 1 1926
Syracuse 1 1959
TCU 1 1938
UCLA 1 1954
Washington 1 1991
[edit] Poll era (1936–present)


Not many SEC teams in the top 20.

There are 5 SEC Teams including the number 3 team. Thats more then 1/3 of the conference. How is that not many?

 

[Ronnie-]

Ok....did you count how many spots Ohio State was below Alabama?
I was going to quit yanking your chain, but if you want to man up in a stat match, lets go.
Just to let you know, they cant match up. They can compare. They cant match up though.

 

[salsadancer7]

wow....this morphed into SEC vs Big Ten....again....

 

[Ronnie-]

Well not really, Beacuse in college winning the Big 10 is like winning say the AFC West. Except that OSU are the Patriots playing in the AFC West.. Sure you win the AFC west every year (ala the big 10) But really did you do much?

And as far as the SEC Goes LSU, FLA, Bama, Auburn, and Tenn have all won a BCS title. (some 2) Where as the Big 10 is well, OSU. (Every now and again someone else if OSU is having a bad year). But for the most part its dam near a shoe in for OSU. Thats starting to change though. The Big 12 you have Texas and Oklahoma. So those two teams split the fun. The Pac12 of course was USC all day. Now Oregon and Stanford seem to be picking up some slack. But Stanford without Andrew luck? The ACC Well ya had Miami twice with 1 win, and VTech once with a loss.

In the SEC in the BCS Era you have had 5 Teams be in the mix, All of which winning the game when they made it (and Auburn should really of had 2 titles but whos counting right?)

So really hard for say FLA or LSU or any of the likes to rack up the sheer number of BCS games that OSU has been to because the path to get there is so much harder. Just look at this year when you have easily 4 Contenders for just 2 BCS slots.

Ive already tried to explain the comparison, They still think we go for the SEC because there is no "hate" between our teams. Not sure what else to say.

 

[JAG72]

There are 5 SEC Teams including the number 3 team. Thats more then 1/3 of the conference. How is that not many?

He said top 20 and there are not 5 SEC teams in the top 20. If I counted right there were only 2.