2024-2025 NCAA Football Thread

[Yespage]

Disappointed that you feel your Pro teams have the same.

Patriots can go 2-15 and as long as those two wins were against The Jets, that is a winning season!

There are so many rivalries in professional sports. Just scratching the surface, in hockey, Montreal v Boston, Chicago v Detroit, Montreal v Toronto. Basketball has Boston v LA. Baseball, Boston v NYY. Football, Hamilton Ti-Cats and the Toronto Argos. Cricket / Rugby / any sport really New Zealand and Australia, cricket has Pakistan v India, Australia v England (<-- this predates the sport of college football!). Soccer, Everton and Liverpool, MK Dons v Wimbledon (the later is the British Baltimore v Cleveland). Soccer is rife with them with the intra-city Derbies... ie teams from the same city... forget the state! Some of these date as far back, some further back than the college rivalries.

And these are merely the ones I'm most familiar with. Others in other regions will know those in their area.

 

[Jimbo]

Patriots can go 2-15 and as long as those two wins were against The Jets, that is a winning season!

There are so many rivalries in professional sports. Just scratching the surface, in hockey, Montreal v Boston, Chicago v Detroit, Montreal v Toronto. Basketball has Boston v LA. Baseball, Boston v NYY. Football, Hamilton Ti-Cats and the Toronto Argos. Cricket / Rugby / any sport really New Zealand and Australia, cricket has Pakistan v India, Australia v England (<-- this predates the sport of college football!). Soccer, Everton and Liverpool, MK Dons v Wimbledon (the later is the British Baltimore v Cleveland). Soccer is rife with them with the intra-city Derbies... ie teams from the same city... forget the state! Some of these date as far back, some further back than the college rivalries.

And these are merely the ones I'm most familiar with. Others in other regions will know those in their area.

OK, Now you just made it an entirely different discussion ... we were talking about College Football rivalries, now you've added every other sport ...

I suppose if I use a Broad enough brush, you can make your point.

You Win, I'm not going to spend all day going back in forth because you want to win your point.

It gets tiring having to defend everything posted.

 

[Jimbo]

OK, Now you just made it an entirely different discussion ... we were talking about College Football rivalries, now you've added every other sport ...

I suppose if I use a Broad enough brush, you can make your point.

You Win, I'm not going to spend all day going back in forth because you want to win your point.

It gets tiring having to defend everything posted.

Mike ...
There is NOTHING Funny about it.

 

[Mike0616]

OK, Now you just made it an entirely different discussion ... we were talking about College Football rivalries, now you've added every other sport ...

Come on, y'all had to be taught like I was, if you are shy on examples, obscure the topic.

Note: Hindered by the fact I went to ACC and SEC schools, where good old to fashioned hate is the order of the day.

 

[Yespage]

OK, Now you just made it an entirely different discussion ... we were talking about College Football rivalries, now you've added every other sport ...

You'll need to talk to this person who said:

College Football is where it's at ...
Now it has changed some, since NIL infiltrated it, but at least you have Rivalries ...

Only a few teams have rivalries that compare to College in the Pro's

Pittsburgh and Baltimore come the closest.

*pointing above*
That guy brought the NFL into the discussion. More generically, that guy also brought "Pro teams" into it too. *points below*

Disappointed that you feel your Pro teams have the same.

Ultimately, that is a red herring as the entire point was, it is only college football and getting incensed over flags is just ridiculous. It isn't like anything was defaced or damaged. The only thing damaged was OSU's AP ranking and while Michigan was responsible for that... it wasn't any wrong doing.

 

[meStevo]

Patriots can go 2-15 and as long as those two wins were against The Jets, that is a winning season!

Yeah, same w/ Chiefs v Raiders. There were multiple horrid seasons for the Chiefs but almost on a weekly basis the Raiders managed to still do worse even when the Chiefs lost, and then as long as they beat the Raiders it was always a suitable consolation prize for a lost season.

Mike ...
There is NOTHING Funny about it.

Oh, it's hilarious. You do this on every topic you're unable to debate for some reason, when you're often the one who drove the discussion to that point.

 

[Jimbo]

Yeah, same w/ Chiefs v Raiders. There were multiple horrid seasons for the Chiefs but almost on a weekly basis the Raiders managed to still do worse even when the Chiefs lost, and then as long as they beat the Raiders it was always a suitable consolation prize for a lost season.



Oh, it's hilarious. You do this on every topic you're unable to debate for some reason, when you're often the one who drove the discussion to that point.

I do what On every topic ?
You always jump in with Yespage and jump up and down that your right ...
You back him and he backs you regardless of the topic.

It use to be a great place to have a conversation with people here, but when your constantly nit picked and degraded for every post, it gets really old.

Go ahead, you two buddies can find someone else to jump on.

To clarify things we were talking Football ... then suddenly its ALL sports.

 

[Yespage]

Indiana better win a game in the playoff to justify their ridiculous inclusion. Alabama fans demanding playoff be expanded to 24 teams and that losses can be played over.

 

[Mike0616]

Indiana better win a game in the playoff to justify their ridiculous inclusion. Alabama fans demanding playoff be expanded to 24 teams and that losses can be played over.

I think your request that IU win a game is a bit unrealistic as there are no girl's middle school teams in the playoffs, so who do you think they are going to beat?

Seriously, I can see a new cottage industry forming concerning the scheduling of games. Companies that specialize in selection of the weakest possible schedule playable could peddle such schedules to schools like Indiana University, Notre Dame, etc. These schools seem to be doing okay along these lines at present, but other schools may want to schedule the division 2 schools as well. What do you all think? It seems that this industry could take place now the playoff committee has decided that strength of schedule has no place in the playoffs. Play a cream puff schedule and win, no quality competition needed.

 

[Jimbo]

Indiana better win a game in the playoff to justify their ridiculous inclusion. Alabama fans demanding playoff be expanded to 24 teams and that losses can be played over.

Indiana COULD beat ND, ND has been poor in big times in recent history, but I think ND takes the Cigarette Man and his team this time.

 

[cpalmer2k]

I think Alabama's biggest flaw was who they lost to- Vanderbilt (6-6 overall, 3-5 in the SEC) and Oklahoma (2-6,6-6). You can't really justify leaving SMU out for them because if you do that top teams will forfeit Conference Championship games from now on and refuse to play. I agree with Saban on that issue- if you had issues with SMU's qualifications as a playoff team they should've been lower in the rankings all year long, not just here at the end.

Likewise I do however think Notre Dame should be penalized for not playing in a Conference and not having to appear in a Championship game at all.

 

[Yespage]

I think your request that IU win a game is a bit unrealistic as there are no girl's middle school teams in the playoffs, so who do you think they are going to beat?

Seriously, I can see a new cottage industry forming concerning the scheduling of games. Companies that specialize in selection of the weakest possible schedule playable could peddle such schedules to schools like Indiana University, Notre Dame, etc. These schools seem to be doing okay along these lines at present, but other schools may want to schedule the division 2 schools as well. What do you all think? It seems that this industry could take place now the playoff committee has decided that strength of schedule has no place in the playoffs. Play a cream puff schedule and win, no quality competition needed.

Seeing that College Football is already that type of industry, forever, no changes needed.

Alabama shouldn't have lost to Vanderbilt. That isn't asking much.

 

[Jimbo]

I think Alabama's biggest flaw was who they lost to- Vanderbilt (6-6 overall, 3-5 in the SEC) and Oklahoma (2-6,6-6). You can't really justify leaving SMU out for them because if you do that top teams will forfeit Conference Championship games from now on and refuse to play. I agree with Saban on that issue- if you had issues with SMU's qualifications as a playoff team they should've been lower in the rankings all year long, not just here at the end.

Likewise I do however think Notre Dame should be penalized for not playing in a Conference and not having to appear in a Championship game at all.

This agreement is for 2 years I believe .... therefore next year will be more of the same with slight improvements, but no changes.

After next year, I do believe they Need to change the Conference Champions, from getting the top 4 spots to being included in the Playoff scenario.

Right now they have teams that were outside of the top 12 before this weeks ranking, locked in with a Home Playoff game.

Personally I would do Away with the Conference Championship games all together, just go by the Top 12 in the rankings.
The SEC would Fight this greatly as they feel its Thier making ... and it was many years ago when they started it ... for the exclusive rights to make more MONEY.

If I am a team that won my conference this year, I could be # 10 or #15 and still get a top 4 ranking AND a Home game ... and they do NOT re seed after the round.
Thats Not Right ...

The #2 team would get dropped to #5 or less if they let all 5 CC's in, eventually.

Some tweaking needs to be done.

Most Years Georgia and Alabama would be up in the top 5 or top 3, with this format, they would potentially start outside of the top 5 if they were not #1.

 

[Howard Simmons]

If Ohio State beats Tennessee and plays Oregon next, then I don't see Ohio State winning against Oregon the way they played against Michigan. Ryan Day better coach them up good because I don't think he will have a job if he loses. JMO.

 

[Foxbat]

Even though I live up north and don’t care for the Red A-State teams from the south, I do get a kick out of the Renasant Bank SEC Shorts videos.

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[Jimbo]

If Ohio State beats Tennessee and plays Oregon next, then I don't see Ohio State winning against Oregon the way they played against Michigan. Ryan Day better coach them up good because I don't think he will have a job if he loses. JMO.

So, the Buckeyes played well thru Most of the Season (still haven't played all together for a whole game, but not many teams have), Lost to Oregon by 1 point or 1 second (slid a little late for a Game winning FG) Oregon was and Is the #1 team ...
Buckeyes lost to TTUN by 3 points while missing 2 FG's, also giving TTUN a Free 7 points ... Interception inside thier own 15 yard line.

TTUN scored 13 point on 2 drive totaling around 15 yards (might not even be that many) ... this is all fact, but No, I'm not going out to find where I happened to see it.

So, my question is, which is the team and which is an aberration ?

 

[Yespage]

Playoff thoughts. The Big 10 have three teams in the first round. They go 3-0, they at least can silence the legit criticism regarding their schedules and whether they aren't that good. They go 1-2, Big Ten looks bad. They go 0-3, we start asking whether it is time to stop doing the AP and Coaches Polls.

Two of the conference winners aren't ranked highly... granted with the Big Ten taking up 13 of the top 10 positions in the nation, that could be why. Whether conference winners get a bye could be adjusted based on the outcome in the second round. Boise State could have the easiest route to Round Three, taking the winner of SMU and PSU. Georgia gets Indiana or Notre Dame, two teams that really haven't done anything yet to justify their ranking. Arizona State presumably needs to manage Texas. But a respectable loss would give the Conference winner legs.

Texas, Oregon/OSU/Tennessee, Boise State, and Georgia in the final four.

Georgia v IDK in the national championship game. Could be an SEC Final repeat, which would help the SEC heal some wounds.

Critical questions and predictions.

• Will all ACC SMU v Clemson Final finally get the SEC to stop snickering at them?
  • No.
• Will OSU fans say the Big Ten is better than everyone is saying after the Big Ten goes 0-4 in playoff and SEC owns the final?
  • Likely.
• Will Boise State v SMU negative ratings create a vacuum in the stadium causing it to collapse?
  • State Governor has already declared a state of emergency.
• Will "ritual suicide" stop being the number 1 Google search term in Alabama by the third round?
  • Depends on who is left... in the playoffs, not the state of Alabama.
• How many NCAA violations will SMU accrue on their way tot he national title?
  • NCAA?! Federal RICO charges will be likely and Congress will have to pass legislation to ensure it never happens again!
• How much more will the ref's need to cheat to ensure the Notre Dame doesn't repeat a Northern Illinois against Indiana a team from the same state they don't even have a rivalry with (nor have lost more than one time to... since 1907)?
  • Oh you know it! They'll make the Fifth Down game seem like a harmless / commonplace mistake.
• While undoubtedly the expanded playoff will reduce the number of reasons for complaints by school fans as to why their school was robbed, will complaining by fans notably drop at all?
  • Doubtful.

 

[Yespage]

NCAA indicates Belichick's staff at UNC is in violation of 71 different rules in the first 6 minutes tenure.

 

[madmadworld]

Mr Bill Goes to College