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When in Rome.
2018-19 NCAA Football Thread
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When in Rome.
Soooo, a person that did NOT commit any crime, AND told those above him ... should be fired according to you ...
Amazing ... how about getting some help for the 2 people actually involved in this case ....
This is a PERSONAL case, should not have even been part of any university issue to start with.
I'm curious what the response would have been had it been a different school ...
Say an sec team ...
I know, we would have never even heard about it, they sweep everything under the rug and nothing gets done.
Had it been Saban ...
UCLA, Oregon, TCU, Georgia Arizona ...ect ...
Yup, never would have heard about it.
People keep thinking that Urban beat his wife and the abuse was with him ... thats NOT WHAT HAPPENED ..
He has nothing to do with the Personal issues of another couple ....
He DID help them years ago when they had issues .... what do people want him to do ?
As for not apologizing to her, I have read that it was not done as it would open the university up for a lawsuit for some reason, which I don't understand.
Say an sec team ...
I know, we would have never even heard about it, they sweep everything under the rug and nothing gets done.
Had it been Saban ...
UCLA, Oregon, TCU, Georgia Arizona ...ect ...
Yup, never would have heard about it.
People keep thinking that Urban beat his wife and the abuse was with him ... thats NOT WHAT HAPPENED ..
He has nothing to do with the Personal issues of another couple ....
He DID help them years ago when they had issues .... what do people want him to do ?
As for not apologizing to her, I have read that it was not done as it would open the university up for a lawsuit for some reason, which I don't understand.
As much as I don't care for Ohio State, I have to agree.
Police reports had been filed in the past between this couple, with restraining orders issued. Nothing was hidden, nor did Meyer violate any laws or rules.
Should we expect every boss in the country to be fired if one of their directs has constant fights with an ex? This has been going back an forth between the assistant and his ex for years.
IT isn't personal when it brings a University (or any employer) into the spotlight like this has done. But, I think you know that.
He lied, repeatedly. He talked about cleaning his phone of old text messages. The report that was given after the presser was very DAMNING. "Well, they were a young married couple". Jeeshhh, that is horrible and that is just one part. It just shows how little he seemed to grasp the seriousness of the incidents, especially, in today's climate.
I frankly don't care what Ohio State did one way or another but with the report and with his presser where he acted like a pouting child, DUDE, that was horrendous and puts not only him but the university in a very bad light and IMO, it shows how bad his judgement over the entire time with that assistant really was.
Why would you want anyone with that poor judgement leading your school and being the face of your state university? This wasn't a one time incident and it isn't like he didn't know the consequences of his actions to the point of trying to erase text messages.
Again, I frankly don't care what Ohio State did, but they were dragged into it and to think they would do nothing is silly.
But, my original post on this, I mocked the school for their reaction to their decision. If Urban reported the incidents to his bosses and they did nothing, IMO, he should have not been suspended but the people above him should have to answer for their lack of action..
MY point on why I would fire him was the report itself and his presser. IMO, it shows his lack of critical judgement. I did not know just how bad it was because the report was passed out after the presser.
I would feel the same, regardless of who it was. As a Kentucky fan, the one reason I did not want Cal was his track record. Yes, he as never been in any trouble but he has left a trail behind him of pretty bad things, UMass and Memphis.
I would also argue, in todays political climate, any major university would have had to deal with the incidents, PUBLICLY. To not recognize that is ridiculous.
I don't know how anyone could think Urban was accused of anything other that covering for an assistant and ignoring the incidents over a period of time. You know as well as I do that if any boss ignores things going on with his subordinates, it is quite possible he will get in some type of trouble with his bosses. It works that way in every job.
Do you believe this entire incident, including what is in the report and his presser shows good judgement on Urban's part?
I just hope we can get back to talking sports instead of this type of stuff.
Ohio State made their decision so, does this hurt the team in those three games? I don't know who they play but I can't imagine this impacts the team much.
Ohio State made their decision so, does this hurt the team in those three games? I don't know who they play but I can't imagine this impacts the team much.
Agreed. So why not we just move on and quit acting like those bitches on “The View.”
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The post suspension conference was very odd.
Very unlike Meyer, it was as if he was just reading a script (which I'm sure his lawyer told him to do).
Then theres today, where he came out and apologized to Courtney and actually seemed more like him self.
The "how do I delete text" was very bad ... its amazing that if your gonna ask someone to do that, exactly HOW do everyone know about it ... its not like that was a topic they were discussing all along.
Fwiw, it was VERY Personal, two people that had a marriage and were having issues, has NOTHING to do with the guys Boss, regardless.
Hell, at this point we don't even know if Courtney's part is true, this could be all made up by her (she brought it out at this time for some reason) ...
He swears it didn't happen, she says it did.
Police came and found no evidence of any issue ...
Why did Meyer and the University have to get dragged into this mess ?
Because, Courtney no longer has Zacks paycheck to live off of ...
Sounds like Motive, doesn't it ...
As for the team, I doubt it makes much difference ... they play 2 easy games to start the season, then they play ranked TCU.
Just like most teams (Bama plays a patsy early, just not first and the major patsys late, when other teams are battling tough teams) they have a few warm up games first.
Oregon State, Rutgers and TCU are the games Meyer will miss ...
The TCU game concerns me, with or without Meyer.
This actually is a Big opportunity for Day taking Meyers place ...
I suspect he'll leave for a HC job next year.
One of the many excuses the university made for Meyer was that he had memory problems from medication he was taking, would that be medication for that "heart" condition he has?
Lucky for Ohio that they're considered a wholesome midwestern school, if anything had happen to an SEC power that has happened to schools like them, Penn State, Michigan State, Maryland, Rutgers, etc. The media would have gone ballistic about that athletics mean too much to these schools.
Google Ohio State wrestling. But sure it's southern schools that sweep stuff under the rug. Matter of fact SEC schools are under more scrutiny than anyone else when it comes to football.
Lucky for Ohio that they're considered a wholesome midwestern school, if anything had happen to an SEC power that has happened to schools like them, Penn State, Michigan State, Maryland, Rutgers, etc. The media would have gone ballistic about that athletics mean too much to these schools.
Google Ohio State wrestling. But sure it's southern schools that sweep stuff under the rug. Matter of fact SEC schools are under more scrutiny than anyone else when it comes to football.
Quite possible. I have no idea how truthful she is or those around her pushing the story. As you and someone else said, this should have been nothing but an inner university/employee issue. But, once it got out......
As I said, if Urban told his superiors about this, then he should not have been suspended IMO. That is why I said the school was trying to appease and punish as little as possible.
The presser and the university release just made it so bad. Urban came off as a complete jerk who was pissed at being punished or even questioned. The university handled this about as bad as you can get IMO.
I hope this doesn't negatively impact the team because at the end of the day, this has NOTHING to do with the kids playing football.
There were actually games on yesterday.
The Hawaii vs Colorado State game last night was very good.
