2011-12 NFL Season

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Carson Palmer has playbook down pat, ready to roll

Ok, so no excuses?

"There's no comparison to last week, to last Wednesday," Palmer said. "I'm comfortable with the entire playbook, comfortable with the guys, comfortable with the snap count, where to stand in the huddle. Every little bit that I've been around here, every second that I've had, I've just learned more and more."
 
Andrew Luck,Matt Barkley,& Landry Jones in my opinion are the top three college QBs right now. The problem is that technically,they are also juniors. Of the three,I think that Matt Barkley is the most likely of the three to come out early,& that is contingent on whether USC will still be on probation his senior year. If Stanford goes to the BCS national championship & wins,I think Andrew Luck will come out early. If they go to the national championship & lose,I believe he'll return to Stanford for his senior season. Landry Jones is the least likely of the three to come out early under any circumstance(unless somebody can successfully convince him that an NFL paycheck can help him feed a lot of poor starving orphan kids overseas). can anybody who keeps up with college football better than me name any more college QB's,who are seniors,who haven't been suspended for infractions,& whose name is not Kellen Moore,who would be eligible for the 2012 draft & would be potential 1st round picks? I'm stumped.
 
... can anybody who keeps up with college football better than me name any more college QB's,who are seniors,who haven't been suspended for infractions,& whose name is not Kellen Moore,who would be eligible for the 2012 draft & would be potential 1st round picks? I'm stumped.
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State. 6'4" senior. OSU is currently #3 in BCS standings.

Possible downside: older than the others because he played professional baseball for a few years before going to college.

Possible upside: older than the others, more mature.
 
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Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State. 6'4" senior. OSU is currently #3 in BCS standings.

Possible downside: older than the others because he played professional baseball for a few years before going to college.

Possible upside: older than the others, more mature.

One thing for sure,2013 potentially will be remembered as the year of the quarterback equalling the year that John Elway,Dan Marino,Jim Kelly,& Tony Eason came out.
 
One thing for sure,2013 potentially will be remembered as the year of the quarterback equalling the year that John Elway,Dan Marino,Jim Kelly,& Tony Eason came out.

Who?:confused:
 
One thing for sure,2013 potentially will be remembered as the year of the quarterback equalling the year that John Elway,Dan Marino,Jim Kelly,& Tony Eason came out.
Considering only one of those actually won the Superbowl, I'd say 2004 might be a better year:

Eli Manning - won
Philip Rivers - may yet win (not holding my breath)
Ben Roethlisberger - won x 2
 
Considering only one of those actually won the Superbowl, I'd say 2004 might be a better year:

Eli Manning - won
Philip Rivers - may yet win (not holding my breath)
Ben Roethlisberger - won x 2

Yeah,only Elway won the Super Bowl,twice,but the other three also made Super Bowl appearances with their teams,Jim Kelly 4 times. Kelly & Elway were the only QB's that year who made multiple Super Bowl appearances though.
 
Tony Eason was drafted by the New England Patriots & was their starting QB when they loss to the Chicago Bears in the 1986 Super Bowl.


He was, but Steve Grogan should have started that game (not that it would have affected the outcome obviously).
 
Eason's an interesting case.

If you look at the numbers and the Pats record from 1983-1988, he wasn't half-Bad (had some very good games)

That Super Bowl really overshadows what was a career that was in the middle- not legendary, but not horrible.
 
Eason's an interesting case.

If you look at the numbers and the Pats record from 1983-1988, he wasn't half-Bad (had some very good games)

That Super Bowl really overshadows what was a career that was in the middle- not legendary, but not horrible.

But Steve Grogan was the better leader. Grogan was as tough a QB that's ever played in this league. Eason was the antithesis of that.
 
This is looking like the most stacked week of NFL games this season.

7 games with big implications:

Jets/Bills, Bucs/Saints, Bengals/Titans, Packers/Chargers, Patriots/Giants, Ravens/Steelers, Bears/Eagles.
 
...this is spot on in a good and a scary way...

I read this and I was excited of the possibilities and quite frankly, scared sh**less...


This has the potential to be an absolute disaster. Carson Palmer will be starting after being back in football for two and half weeks. The team's offensive MVP Darren McFadden is almost certainly out. TJ Houshmanzedah replaced Derek Hagan. Marcel Reece is back for the first time since Week 2, and Jim Otto will be playing center (I might have made this up).

That is a lot of change. There will undoubtedly be a problem with fluidity. However, there is also a chance to see dimensions out of this offense we haven't seen.

This offense is poised to strike at all levels in the passing game better than at any time except for the few games where Jerry Porter showed up in 2002.

Marcel Reece, Michael Bush and WR screens keep the flats dangerous. Houshmanzedah has the potential to be a slot intermediate receiver that the Raiders haven't had, or have been reluctant to use.

If TJ can make a few catches in the short middle slot, it is going to help open things up for Kevin Boss in the deep middle seam routes. This is Boss' specialty.

Then of course we have the speed demon receivers that keep the deep threat alive on every single play. And DHB turning into a force on intermediate slant routes as well. And let us not forget about the absolute havoc it bring to a defense when Reece splits out wide. This offense can be an absolute matchup nightmare.

The possibilities are really endless. It all just has to start clicking. When and if that happens is anyone's guess.
 
But Steve Grogan was the better leader. Grogan was as tough a QB that's ever played in this league. Eason was the antithesis of that.

The only reason I remember Tony Eason is the Super Bowl against the Bears. I remember Todd Blackledge because he was the only QB who didn't really pan out. Ken O'Brien was apparently successful for the New York Jets,but I don't remember him at all,especially in comparison to John Elway,Jim Kelly,& Dan Marino. Tony Eason's "15 minutes of fame" was the Superbowl game against da Bears. Tony Eason was the second of that class who made it to the Superbowl,the first being Dan Marino.
 
Tony Eason was drafted by the New England Patriots & was their starting QB when they loss to the Chicago Bears in the 1986 Super Bowl.

Yes I know, but he sucked overall.
 
Hmmm...interesting..Belichick was once a "fight promoter" ...LOL!

Former player says Belichick paid him to start fights in practice

Posted by Mike Florio on November 4, 2011, 10:37 AM EDT

The last time the Patriots prepared to face the Giants, a bombshell was dropped by the Boston Herald. Former Pats beat writer John Tomase reported — and later retracted — that the Patriots had secretly filmed the Rams' walk-through practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI.

As the Patriots prepare to face the Giants for the first time since the day that 18-0 became 18-1 in February 2008, another controversy has surfaced, albeit far less inflammatory.

Former NFL defensive lineman Chad Eaton, in a profile published Thursday by the Dayton Daily News, blurts out that, when he was a member of the Browns' practice squad, coach Bill Belichick paid Eaton to start fights in practice.

"If practice was going slow, he'd look at me and just say, 'It's time,'" Eaton said. "He wanted me to get on somebody's [case] and start a little fight. I was known for that and it paid off on Fridays. There'd always be some extra money in my locker. Practice players don't make much, so I really appreciated it."

Eaton spent five seasons with the Patriots after his time in Cleveland ended. His time in New England overlapped with Belichick by only one year, in 2000.

Belichick has a reputation for greasing the palms of the various P-H-D (poor, hungry, driven) employees who work for the front office and coaching staff. Giving extra cash to players raises the specter of potential salary-cap violations.

It's highly unlikely that anything will come of this, given that Eaton is talking about things that happened more than 15 years ago. But any hint of a potential rules violation by the Patriots and/or Belichick is sure to get PFT Planet's juices flowing on a fairly slow Friday morning, regardless of whether any, some, or all of the other 31 coaches were doing the same thing.

Former player says Belichick paid him to start fights in practice | ProFootballTalk
 
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