2010-11 NHL Hockey Season

Heck, why play the game...just have a 60-minute shootout. :rolleyes:

I heard on Satellite hot stove last night that the GM of the Red Wings was going to propose that they go to a 5 min 4 on 4 and then go to a 5 min 3 on 3 and then if it is still tied go to the shoot out.
 
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I heard on Satellite hot stove last night that the GM of the Red Wings was going to propose that they go to a 5 min 4 on 4 and then go to a 5 min 3 on 3 and then if it is still tied go to the shoot out.
Sound like a reasonable solution to resolving the tie versus shootout issue. If I were to venture I guess, I would esimate more than 80% of all games will be decided during OT.
 
Sound like a reasonable solution to resolving the tie versus shootout issue. If I were to venture I guess, I would esimate more than 80% of all games will be decided during OT.

I agree, that seems like a very good solution. Your 80% estimate also sounds right on.
 
I agree, that seems like a very good solution. Your 80% estimate also sounds right on.
Bill, it sounds like a great solution: fair to both teams, exciting for fans, decides most games quickly, and I think the players would enjoy a little 4-4 and 3-3 action. I hate the "shoot-out" (no surprise here), but I would have absolutely no problem with games being decided with this proposed format.

That's exactly why it will be crushed by Gary Bettman.:(
 
Judging by what he said last night, as well as his disdain for high-scoring games, I think that for Jimbo, the perfect hockey game would be one where nobody scores.

Newsflash- hockey is becoming a space-age game, yet you sound like a guy stuck in the days of stone age hockey.

You need to get with the times.

Nobody else wants to go back to the days of clutching, grabbing, trapping, boring muckfests that only you guys love.

I love post-lockout hockey- it's FUN, it's EXCITING, it's ENTERTAINING!

Jimbo's comments sounds like a guy who refuses to buy a color TV and won't part ways with a black-and-white one.

Hockey was so boring for so long- it needed a shake up.

Ummmm....they still do that, maybe not as bad as the Devils use to but they still do it at some form or fashion. The only time they don't is the all star game. I don't want a 20-19 game, I like some D, I like hard hits and a good fight when needed.

Seems like YOU are the only one that likes all star hockey.
 
I have been bitching about the shootouts since the time they brought them in the league. Having played a little competitive hockey myself, I hated them when I was young, as I do now. It is a team game, and should be decided that way.

80% is low, 3 on 3 hockey at that skill level, 99% of the games would be decided before the 5 minutes are up.
 
Three on three hockey is almost as much of a gimmick as a shootout. You want to eliminate ties? Award three points for a win. Or four points. One point for a tie. Lower the value of a tie.


Sandra
 
Three on three hockey is almost as much of a gimmick as a shootout. You want to eliminate ties? Award three points for a win. Or four points. One point for a tie. Lower the value of a tie.


Sandra
If your giving out points like candy 3-4 for a win is ridiculous, how many points do we get for a loss ?

Make it simple ....
2 points for a win
No points for a Tie or a loss.

Play till there's a winner ..... nothing wrong with a tie... if you MUST have a winner, change to 4 on 4 for a period of hockey. If no one scores in the OT period, NO ONE gets a point

If you give NO points for a Tie or a win, teams will actually PLAY the OT time. Some teams actually compete in the third period and OT, many others just lollygag trying for the tie to get a point.
 
If your giving out points like candy 3-4 for a win is ridiculous, how many points do we get for a loss ?

Make it simple ....
2 points for a win
No points for a Tie or a loss.

Play till there's a winner ..... nothing wrong with a tie... if you MUST have a winner, change to 4 on 4 for a period of hockey. If no one scores in the OT period, NO ONE gets a point

If you give NO points for a Tie or a win, teams will actually PLAY the OT time. Some teams actually compete in the third period and OT, many others just lollygag trying for the tie to get a point.

Hence Sandra's suggestion to increase the value for a win. If they continue with the current rules, it's actually a pretty good idea.

But I agree with you Jimbo, it's either a win or a loss. If that happened there would be no need for the points system.

But
 
Hence Sandra's suggestion to increase the value for a win. If they continue with the current rules, it's actually a pretty good idea.

But I agree with you Jimbo, it's either a win or a loss. If that happened there would be no need for the points system.

But

I still think it gives more urgency if you give LESS points :D
 
Shootouts are awesome. Best [regular season] Sabres game I ever was at was the season opener two years ago against Montreal. It was tied 1-1. I forgot who scored for Montreal, but Vanek got it for Buffalo and Kotalik and Stafford got it done in the shootout. The suspense was killer and it's nice having a clear cut winner, ties suck. The last game I ever went to at the old Aud was a 1-1 tie against the NY Islanders. Talk about an exciting game I just wish the NHL would do away with the points system and go on a straight win-loss record like all the other sports. I fail to see any logic is giving the losing team in OT or a SO a point.
 
Hence Sandra's suggestion to increase the value for a win. If they continue with the current rules, it's actually a pretty good idea.

But I agree with you Jimbo, it's either a win or a loss. If that happened there would be no need for the points system.

But
I like the old 2-point for a win, 1-point for a tie, and 0-points for a loss system best. However, since the NHL appears to be somewhat serious about "fixing" the current OT/shoot-out system...well, I wouldn't mind seeing the aforementioned proposal (5-minute 4-4 followed by a 5-minute 3-3 if necessary followed by the shoot-out, if necessary. Regardless, if you lose...well, you lose...period! Get rid of the nonsensical 1-point OTL rubbish. A generous stretch would be to permit a 1-point shoot-out loss (SOL)...because, as angiodan mentioned, almost all of these games are going to be decided after the two shorhanded OT period.
 
I like the old 2-point for a win, 1-point for a tie, and 0-points for a loss system best. However, since the NHL appears to be somewhat serious about "fixing" the current OT/shoot-out system...well, I wouldn't mind seeing the aforementioned proposal (5-minute 4-4 followed by a 5-minute 3-3 if necessary followed by the shoot-out, if necessary. Regardless, if you lose...well, you lose...period! Get rid of the nonsensical 1-point OTL rubbish. A generous stretch would be to permit a 1-point shoot-out loss (SOL)...because, as angiodan mentioned, almost all of these games are going to be decided after the two shorhanded OT period.

Have you heard something about the NHL looking into changing this ?

The problem with the current OT scenario is the time frame, 5 minutes they barely get into the flow of what going on, needs to be AT LEAST 10 minute OT for starters. The way it is now it's 4-4 and I'm fine with that.

If you really want to start changing things, how about after the 10 minute OT that I mentioned, if that doesn't end it, lets keep the game of hockey in the game and go to a Power Play, 1 for each team, if it's still tied after that, then well consider a Shootout.
 

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