What signals can you "see" at 61.5?

[digiblur]

Yeah, I'd say you were a little out of the spotbeam for Miami, FL

Explains the wrong satellite messages some people are getting. I bet if some of the folks covered up the 110/119 LNB's with foil they'd still get wrong satellite.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Yeah, I'd say you were a little out of the spotbeam for Miami, FL

Explains the wrong satellite messages some people are getting. I bet if some of the folks covered up the 110/119 LNB's with foil they'd still get wrong satellite.

Isn't Florida closer to the 61.5 then anyother state. I don't understand?

 

[HokieEngineer]

Isn't Florida closer to the 61.5 then anyother state. I don't understand?

But I am not in florida, so I shouldn't be able to see that PAT. However it looks like they are just mirroring the Miami HD local spotbeam from 110w to a spotbeam on 61.5.

 

[digiblur]

Isn't Florida closer to the 61.5 then anyother state. I don't understand?

No, I'm saying Hokie is receiving a signal that is same as the content on one of the 110w spotbeams pointed at FL. All I know is Hokie doesn't live in FL...

Why is it like this? Basically at one of the uplinks they are just duplicating the signal that is going out to of the 110W spotbeams as the the same as one of the 61.5w spotbeams, hence the reason why some of your receivers are saying wrong satellite.

 

[Smith P.]

OK, finally we have real evidence - spectrograms by Hokie. Thanks man.

So, some SB on tp1 and tp3 at East Coast lites on.

I don't see anything unusual for routing 110W mux into testing tpns at 61.5W - I got similar picture when 157W has been tested a couple years ago.

Perhaps on West Coast they play with tp7 ? But the signal curve ( you saw it) is distrophical .
There is new 'skyscan' from 12:20pm to 22:30pm
(timeline from top to bottom, tpns - from left to right 1-31, black - no signal, white - high level)
- you can see a few attempts to make works tp7 , but so far there is no good result.

 

[necochino]

Last night I got L449 in at least one of my 622. Now I have the "wrong sat 110" in TP1 for 61.5. With L448 yesterday evening I did not.

 

[mike123abc]

Wow changes today!

01 85 signal strength!! Not locked have not had signal on 1 for a long time and now 85!
02 50
03 56 locked named not acquired
04 no signal
05 33 locked 61.5
06 no signal
07 91!!! locked but name not acquired
08 59 locked 61.5
09 36 locked 61.5
10 52 locked 61.5
11 37 locked 61.5
12 74 locked 61.5
13 20 locked 61.5
14 65 locked 61.5
15 82 wrong sat 110w I bet these are the dallas 110 locals mirrored on 61.5
16 58 locked 61.5
17 33 locked 61.5
...


Based on this, I would say the spot that does north TX (Dallas/Wichita Falls/Lawton) is running in spots with TP 1, 7 and 15. With TP 15 (as reported in uplink report) Dallas locals from 110 since it says 110.

 

[digiblur]

Wow changes today!

01 85 signal strength!! Not locked have not had signal on 1 for a long time and now 85!
02 50
03 56 locked named not acquired
04 no signal
05 33 locked 61.5
06 no signal
07 91!!! locked but name not acquired
08 59 locked 61.5
09 36 locked 61.5
10 52 locked 61.5
11 37 locked 61.5
12 74 locked 61.5
13 20 locked 61.5
14 65 locked 61.5
15 82 wrong sat 110w I bet these are the dallas 110 locals mirrored on 61.5
16 58 locked 61.5
17 33 locked 61.5
...


Based on this, I would say the spot that does north TX (Dallas/Wichita Falls/Lawton) is running in spots with TP 1, 7 and 15. With TP 15 (as reported in uplink report) Dallas locals from 110 since it says 110.

Can you cover your 110/119 LNB's to make sure?

 

[Smith P.]

Or connect SA BL-2030 to it and make scan of odd tpns ?

 

[necochino]

mike123abc, digi, have you read my post? when I had L448 I had no signals on TP1 (61.5) and now, with L449 I do get a signal and it says wrong sat (110). Any chance that the software is playing tricks with our system?

 

[digiblur]

mike123abc, digi, have you read my post? when I had L448 I had no signals on TP1 (61.5) and now, with L449 I do get a signal and it says wrong sat (110). Any chance that the software is playing tricks with our system?

Possibly... without any special equipment the only way to tell if you have some sort of crosstalk is to do what I suggested. Cover the 110/119 LNB's with aluminum foil. Go to the point dish screen and make sure 110 and 119 are dead. Then check your signals at 61.5, if you're still getting the 110 at 61.5 then you are another user seeing the duplication of signals to 61.5 for testing.

 

[necochino]

Thanks, Digi. I'll have to live with the doubt. No way I can reach my dishes. They sit on the edge of my roof, a good 30ft from the ground... Cheers.

 

[Foxbat]

Area: South Bend, IN (46601)
Timestamp: 13-Mar-2008 01:30 EDT
Weather: VFR, no ceiling, unlimited visibility

61.5 Dish Type: 300 w/DishPro LNBf
Receiver: ViP211-HD L437

XP - Transponder
SB - Spotbeam
L - Locked
NL - Not Locked
NA - Name Not Acquired!
E* - EchoStar 61.5 West

Results:
XP 01: 0NL NA
XP 02: 60L E*
XP 03: 48L NA
XP 04: 0NL NA
XP 05: 50L E*
XP 06: 70L NA
XP 07: 54L NA
XP 08: 70L E*
XP 09: 54L E*
XP 10: 66L E*
XP 11: 57L E*
XP 12: 82L E*
XP 13: 42L E*
XP 14: 77L E*
XP 15: 52L NA
XP 16: 68L E*
XP 17: 53L E*
XP 18: 64L E*
XP 19: 59L E*
XP 20: 51L E*
XP 21: 53L E*
XP 22: 48L E*
XP 23: 69L E*
XP 24: 60L E*
XP 25: 70L E*
XP 26: 0NL NA
XP 27: 71L E*
XP 28: 41L NA
XP 29: 66L E*
XP 30: 43L E*
XP 31: 68L E*
XP 32: 62L E*

 

[LER]

Area: 78681 (Round Rock, TX (Austin))
61.5 Dish type: Dish 300
Receiver: VIP 622 L4.49
1. NL
2. 57
3. NL
4. NL
5. 48
6. 64 NNA
7. 51 WS (110)
8. 64
9. 52
10. 64
11. 53
12. 78
13. 37
14. 75
15. NL
16. 63
17. 50
18. 63
19. 53
20. 49
21. 52
22. 50
23. 66
24. 57
25. 69
26. NL
27. 69
28. 40 NNA
29. 66
30. 41
31. 69
32. 57

NNA = Name Not Acquired
WS = Wrong Sat

 

[Smith P.]

LER, your tp6 is a 'leak' from tp8 and tp28 - from tp30 for sure..

 

[LER]

LER, your tp6 is a 'leak' from tp8 and tp28 - from tp30 for sure..

and this means what?

I.E. is it a problem? Or just an anomaly?

 

[Smith P.]

I did note about it before a few times.

Practically speaking, tp6 and tp28 are dead - no signal at all, so all the reports are not free from errors.

And tp4, tp26.

 

[tnsprin]

Area: nassau county, NY
61.5 Dish type: Dish 300 (DPP 44)
Receiver: VIP 622 L4.49
1: 0%
2: 55%
3: 37% (name not acquired)
4: 45% (name not acquired)
5: 41%
6: 57% (name not acquired)
7: 41% (name not acquired)
8: 57%
9: 45%
10: 60%
11: 46%
12: 71%
13: 31%
14: 71%
15: 41% (name not acquired)
16: 55%
17: 43%
18: 59%
19: 48%
20: 40%
21: 45%
22: 41%
23: 55%
24: 51%
25: 56%
26: 0%
27: 55%
28: 35% (name not acquired)
29: 57%
30: 37%
31: 54%
32: 50%

 

[Fitzie]

For my own entertainment I went through this exercise. Based on Smith, P.'s previous comments, I concluded that he is entirely correct that the NNA numbers on 3, 6, 7, 15 and 28 are all phantoms (mirror numbers) from transponders 2 numbers up. (#3 is the same as #5, 6 the same as #8, etc.)

Except for those areas where the number of #3 is recorded as "spot beam," which probably indicates they are actually now getting the spot beam for the NC area.

Regards,
Fitzie

 

[digiblur]

LER, can you cover your 110/119 LNB? Might not be a leak...