That's a good point too. I will admit that during that 6 month stretch I was pretty disgusted with Monstershd. I'm not sure what the issue was during that time period. Was Voom upset because they were placed in a different tier? Or Dish demanded they follow the schedule making them less desirable? Is it true that Charlie tried to break the contract every chance he got?
VOOM Goes BOOM - update Dish Drops all 15 VOOM Channels
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That's a good point too. I will admit that during that 6 month stretch I was pretty disgusted with Monstershd. I'm not sure what the issue was during that time period. Was Voom upset because they were placed in a different tier? Or Dish demanded they follow the schedule making them less desirable? Is it true that Charlie tried to break the contract every chance he got?
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I realized what you were doing. That is why I put "you?" guess I forgot the
alsoWell, I see what part of problem is already - who ever said anything about elitists? If that's what you think just because someone doesn't want to watch ad-ridden sitcom reruns and Riki Lake exploitation tv doesn't make them elitist.
Duh, Rush was one of my favorite channels.
Aren't you the one saying that Dish dropped Voom to add what J6P wants to watch? Nice turn around...
There are dozens of channels that couldn't make it on their own that we are stuck with right now.
Interesting look into your thinking.
Sounds like the wrong local pub to me.
Have you ever been to Soho or other cultural centers of large cities? There is a place for everyone and a sufficient clientel to support it. Most people don't listen to Ivy or Lisa Loeb but they are still successful. There are people who call their music crap but they can keep walking to the bar that plays their top 40 from the 90's music. In fact, the places that play the Indy music and the less well known musicians are actually some of the more popular places to go for music lovers. But the typical bar can't get the masses to drink their swill without Top 40 music blaring. Dish had a a great package of entertainment that could appeal to a substantial group of viewers but the noisy obnoxious local bar made it seem otherwise. At least in your allegory.
"Voom goes boom" has nothing to do with your little story. Smithsonian and several other channels are showing content that Voom made popular. This was all about "The Gambler" and the story has not even begun to be told yet.
You.
You make it sound like the average viewer is trash and they should all want to watch what you watch.
Nope that was you. You coined the phrase J6P. I said the majority of viewers didn't want Voom they want other channels.
which ones?
What?
I just noticed the ad banner on DirecTV's site..."DirecTV Stomps the Competition....DirecTV: 95, Dish Nework: 81, Cable: 56 National HD Channels Available." Funny, but with VOOM the count would be Dish Network: 96, DirecTV: 95, and Cable: 56.
I just noticed the ad banner on DirecTV's site..."DirecTV Stomps the Competition....DirecTV: 95, Dish Nework: 81, Cable: 56 National HD Channels Available." Funny, but with VOOM the count would be Dish Network: 96, DirecTV: 95, and Cable: 56.
What will Dish's count be after August 1st? I'll have to go back and find the list being turned on but it seems that will make them even or maybe Dish will have a slight lead. Of course, that would make Dish the HD Lite Leader, right?
...for sure.What will Dish's count be after August 1st? I'll have to go back and find the list being turned on but it seems that will make them even or maybe Dish will have a slight lead. Of course, that would make Dish the HD Lite Leader, right?
While we're not happy with the VOOM situation, we would probably still be paying customers if it weren't for year after year of DishHD-Lite. To me, the numbers are less important than the quality of the picture and programming.Net HD reduction?
Maybe others have already commented on this but I note that while Dish loves to brag about adding some HD content, they don't mention that for every new channel, they deleted some other channel. While the Voom channels weren't to die for, they were promised to me by DISH and I agreed to pay for them. I don't think that the net overall effect has been impressive.
Of course, if you hated the Voom channels and love the replacements, then you're just lucky. But still, it hard to argue that what DISH has done over the last year is a clear improvement when you consider both the deletions and the additions. It appears to me that DISH only wants you to look at one side of the ledger.
Maybe others have already commented on this but I note that while Dish loves to brag about adding some HD content, they don't mention that for every new channel, they deleted some other channel. While the Voom channels weren't to die for, they were promised to me by DISH and I agreed to pay for them. I don't think that the net overall effect has been impressive.
Of course, if you hated the Voom channels and love the replacements, then you're just lucky. But still, it hard to argue that what DISH has done over the last year is a clear improvement when you consider both the deletions and the additions. It appears to me that DISH only wants you to look at one side of the ledger.
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The HD liters have to jump in on this. Until they get more of the sats going there is no way for them to do anything other than.
...for sure.
The HD liters have to jump in on this. Until they get more of the sats going there is no way for them to do anything other than.
Hdlite with E* is here to stay at least for the next couple of years. As they are pressured to add more hd mainly because of D*. PQ is as bad as I have ever seen.
Hey Dummy- good post.
I agree with you statements. Problem is there is nothing like Voom for E* or even D* to add. Mainly mainstream channels of the same crap which most of the time is either stretched or not in hd.
Where's your proof
I would like to know where you get this info. Both E* & D* have just put up 1 sat each that will be turned on very soon. D* in fact has just gotten up their new bird and E's goes up sometime between Nov 08 to Feb of 09 depending on which source is used. Anyway they will have an increased number of transponders that will be MPEG 4 only. How can you say that it will be 2 more years before the "HDLite" ends?
I would like to know where you get this info. Both E* & D* have just put up 1 sat each that will be turned on very soon. D* in fact has just gotten up their new bird and E's goes up sometime between Nov 08 to Feb of 09 depending on which source is used. Anyway they will have an increased number of transponders that will be MPEG 4 only. How can you say that it will be 2 more years before the "HDLite" ends?
Just my opinion. D*s pq is fine. E* has declined a lot. The pressure to keep up with D* will make E* add more hd channels that take up a lot of space. Its going to take some time for them to have the capacity for all the hd channels in the next few years.
Hey Dummy- good post.
For a second I thought you were talking to me.
For a second I thought you were talking to me.
Actually, you have been posting some good stuff.
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dish needs new management
I signed up for dishnetworks soley due to Voom HD as that was enough of a quality of content and picture to go with dish instead of DirectV but now that their poor management dropped Voom and treated us like crap; well the scales are clearly for Directv and we are happy to switch! dish does not get it; it is quality of programs and unique content. I know I paid a premium but for us the Voom channels made it worth the extra money. It is so sad to see Voom gone. I am happier with the service, and overall experience thus far with Directv but would switch in a heartbeat if there was Voom HD offered somewhere?
...for sure.
I signed up for dishnetworks soley due to Voom HD as that was enough of a quality of content and picture to go with dish instead of DirectV but now that their poor management dropped Voom and treated us like crap; well the scales are clearly for Directv and we are happy to switch! dish does not get it; it is quality of programs and unique content. I know I paid a premium but for us the Voom channels made it worth the extra money. It is so sad to see Voom gone. I am happier with the service, and overall experience thus far with Directv but would switch in a heartbeat if there was Voom HD offered somewhere?
I'd like to see the VOOM channels come back, even if as an a la carte add on. If Dish still has 5 of the channels I wonder if that means that they still have rights to distribute the other 10, but have just elected to use the bandwidth for something else right now.
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