VIP and HOPPER

[saheisler]

Is there a way for an apartment complex to have only one DISH that will support 3 VIP and 1 Hopper (+3 joyes)? If so, anyone have a diagram?

Would using a three lines from the LNBs to a DPP44 (to dish) inputs and from the DPP44, run the VIPs from the receiver ports and then extend from the (to additional switch) on the DPP44 three lines to the (to dish) inputs on the (DPH42) and from the (DPH42) receiver ports, connect a NODE and then follow standard hopper install. Also, what type of LNB would you suggest if it matters

 

[navychop]

ViPs are not allowed on Hopper accounts, save for the ViP211 series, for tailgating.


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[JSheridan]

Is there a way for an apartment complex to have only one DISH that will support 3 VIP and 1 Hopper (+3 joyes)? If so, anyone have a diagram?

Would using a three lines from the LNBs to a DPP44 (to dish) inputs and from the DPP44, run the VIPs from the receiver ports and then extend from the (to additional switch) on the DPP44 three lines to the (to dish) inputs on the (DPH42) and from the (DPH42) receiver ports, connect a NODE and then follow standard hopper install. Also, what type of LNB would you suggest if it matters

Yes that will work except because you'd be using a DPH42 for the Hopper you would use a hub and not a node.

Any DishProPlus (DPP) LNB will work. I'm assuming that you're on the western arc because you said 3 wires from the dish. If you're on the eastern arc you only need 2 wires from the dish.

 

[navychop]

Different accounts.


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[JSheridan]

Different accounts.


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When he said apartment building I assumed he meant different accounts as well.

 

[HipKat]

Yes that will work except because you'd be using a DPH42 for the Hopper you would use a hub and not a node.

Any DishProPlus (DPP) LNB will work. I'm assuming that you're on the western arc because you said 3 wires from the dish. If you're on the eastern arc you only need 2 wires from the dish.

Noty a good idea though. If the apt with the Hopper moves, the others lose signal when they unplug the 42 switch

 

[DishSubLA]

I think HipKat meant if the renter with VIP moves, the loss of power to the DPP44 switch will cut the hopper off from a signal

Yes, the concern is the power inserter that is necessary for the DPP44 to function. Uually the power inserter is placed inside the domicile near the the primary STB (at least in all the intalls for me going all the way back to the SW64, DP34, DPP44, and DPH42). AFAIK, the power inserters are not designed to be weather and temperature resistant like the switches are, but let's assume that the power inserter can be installed outside the domicile but in a watertight place and in a climate that does not have large extremes, the trick would still be what the maximum cable run is for the power inserter of a DPP42 and subsequent RF signal from port 1 via the power inserter. if we're talking about one of those very small group of apartments then maybe it can be done, but if it's a larger complex and the domiciles are far apart from one another it could be a huge challenge.

however I tend to agree with HipKat that this isn't as easy as it sounds and may not in fact work given how the conditions and distances have to be pretty much just right to have the power inserter for the DPP42 to be installed outside of the domicile so that when the user of the VIP moves and power to his unit is shut off, it won't cut off signal to the hopper, and this is all on the presumption that the power inserted is not weather nor temperature resistant, and if that's the case then it won't work. but yours truly could still be wrong. if the power inserter is weather and temperature resistant, then that just leaves dealing with how long the cable run can be for the power being delivered is sufficient.

now if this were inside the same domicile meaning that the power inserters would be inside the same residential unit safe and sound from the elements then this could absolutely work.

perhaps someone already have such a setup. We'd love to hear from them.

 

[JSheridan]

Noty a good idea though. If the apt with the Hopper moves, the others lose signal when they unplug the 42 switch

Whenever we do something like this we put the power inserters for the switches in a common utility closet or something like that if possible so the switches always have power.