I'm in rural(bush) Alaska with no local techs or installers, so this is a do it yourself installation as usual. Since I posted last, called a Dish retailer about 400 miles from here and they mailed me a couple new high def LNB's. Can tell there is going to be a problem getting the new skinny throated LNB to fit into the mount at the end of my 4 foot dish. Hope it can be shimmed with electrical tape, but it'll be my luck will have to order a smaller diameter holding bracket. Plus it's below freezing up here today which is going to make climbing on my roof an adventure. Might have to wait a while to prevent playing slip&slid up there.