In my opinion, people who work for lower pay, dosent nesersarily mean their work must suck, no. Some people, naturaly put pride into there work, and refuse to work otherwise. What Im sain is that when an employer, drops payscale, when in alot of cases is why some of us got into this was for the money, then what happens is The tech who became accustomed to making this money has bills to pay based on what he was accustomed to making, and so is it fair that because a companys expences goes up that it should come out of the pockets of its employees? It needs to come out of the consumers pocket, by offering them quality product, along with quality service and installation. Even though everyone is attracted to the word free, it dosent have to be at the expence of its workers. Ya, I know, Its big business, AND ITS BEEN GOING ON FROM THE BEGINING OF TIME, OUT WITH THE OLD IN WITH THE NEW. When you are a kid without a family to support, It can seem to pay very well and is acceptable. They will be conditioned to work longer hours for with less benifets, because the only thing that money is going to is self preservation and toys, and maybe some hoochie from time to time. I do belive that the industry as a whole will suffer By paycuts, especially if workloads increase. Its like CHADO said, why wouldent a company hire some one for less pay if they could get away with it. How are they getting away with it? Will they get away with it? I think the results will be vetern techs will end up taking the shaft unless they unionize, there is power in numbers. other wise people crunching numbers on paper will do what they do, lower the expence of production. As far as crappy insalls, that is up to the company, In my company they do quality checks, it which if we do not follow policy and a certain set of standards, we eventually will end up out of the job. The problem is, that when you bring on young guys and when the more experienced techs find its not worth it anymore and move on or get pushed out, then what you have is in experienced installers being pushed to work faster, and get more jobs done that i GARINTEE YOU WILL LOOSE QUALITY OF WORK. aS ANY INSTALLER knows, some jobs take more time and effort to get it done than others may, So If you have x- amount of jobs to do in a day, and you are compelled to finish them all, alls that it will take Is that one job, that requires that little bit of extra time and energy, and the next thing you know, your living to work, not working to live. Big business is a bunch of fat cats who take advantage and oppress their workers, all is in the heart of the heads who run the show is higher numbers, fatter pockets, more money more snach, bigger houses, nicer cars, more power, to gain as much as humanly possiable to the extent of lust and thirst for more no matter to who might get stomped on, pushed out, or suffer, as long as their are more benjamins. Do any of you think that companys would pay anybody anything if they could get away with it? Earlier I thought the word Slave may have been strong,... But now that I think about it,..... No, thats exactly what we are, we get up and do what we are told every morning, to go and build pyrimids for THE PHAROS, Compeled to accept less and less and do more and more until our children grow up as we did, thinking to themselves, that thats the way it is, Slavery, Whats that? Im not a slave, I can walk out my door, or get in my car, and go anywhere, and do anything. Wrong, You need money to travel, you need a passport to leave the country, you need to pay your taxes or uncle sam will stick his foot in your ass, you need to do as your told, dont cause any waves, cause someone who is benifeting from you keeping your mouth shut may just shut u up permenitly, ---IF, THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT. yOU GET IN THE CAR, MAYBE BE you saved enough money to go somewhere, great, can you afford the time off, do you have paid vacations, or have they cut those benifets also? Maybe your kids wont complain if they are also programed and conditiond into beliving they are free because when they grow up they can just up and quit and find another entry level job with no possibility of advancement or promotion, unless you do what you are told when you are told how you are told, Or unless you are good at getting others to do what they are told, how they are told when they are told. We are all slaves on one level building or another, I dont care what anyone says, just because they may be on a higher level with more power and or privlige, With less direct concerne ir issues that dont affect them. As for the Pharos,And heads in power, They have created the perfect world with the perfect system where they can get slaves to do what they ever they desire, because their slaves dont know they are slaves, They give us T.V . so we can watch actors pretending to have lives,so we can forget about our ownfor awhile, and we call it entertainment, more like a babysitter, for all age groups and its become a ritual, they give us cars so we can feel as if we can go anywhere any time, and its true, we can,.... But those roads were made to go exactly where they want us to stay.... Right between the lines. A bunch of brainwashing conditioning and programiming masters of twist ing the truth to get a large number of people to do as the smaller number royals say to do. As long as you belive you are free because you have a tv, Fine, then I guess we are all free, and as long as we dont think about it we are a ok. We Who work in this country do not have to accept our work conditions If a companys employees were united, We as installers cant be outsourced to mexico, or the phillipnes, or tiwan. WE are here, our work is here unlike many of our call centers where it is more affordable to hire slaves people at half the pay where to them they are allready conditioned to making crappy pay, but to them maybe alot of money in an oppressed economy. Anyways... Im on a tangent. Without a union or reps who have power to organize a large group of people together in a company where the power and or demands or the majority of slaves can bargain, and comprimise agreeable pay and hours or conditions, The Real fat cat bastards will do what ever they can get away with little by little like sneaky pythons till little by little they have there way, Disposeable employees. Chow....
