TVAnswerman Has AT&T Predictions For 2020

[rapidturtle]

I live in PA, but have NY locals. I'm right the border. I only needed the Sunday ticket twice this year to watch the Eagles play. With all of the Thursday night, Sunday Night, Monday night, and even the Sunday morning London games that are televised, the Sunday ticket keeps going up in price, but losing in value.

 

[NashGuy]

I can believe that AT&T might stop installing DTV at addresses where their AT&T Fiber or AT&T Internet (what used to be called Uverse) services are available (because at those locations, they would want the resident to get AT&T TV, hopefully over AT&T's broadband but, if not, over someone else's, and if AT&T Internet is available at a residence, then cable broadband almost certainly is too). But I can't see them completely stopping new DTV installations everywhere. They'll continue to rely on satellite to serve rural areas where there's no broadband service, as well as many commercial establishments. Why completely deny service to customers willing to pay for it?

Beyond that, if they just price AT&T TV a bit (~10-15%) cheaper than DTV for a typical 2-TV household with whole-home DVR and the same standard set of channels, that'll go a long way toward shepherding the user base from DTV to AT&T TV. They may also eliminate the discount for bundling DTV with AT&T Fiber/Internet (while still offering it for AT&T TV), eliminate loyal subscriber discounts for DTV if the subscriber is eligible for AT&T TV, and shift pretty much all advertising and marketing away from DTV to AT&T TV.

 

[slice1900]

Why would they refuse to sell you Directv if you are at an address with AT&T TV? You can't get NFLST with AT&T TV can you? You can't get 4K...

They will never be exactly equivalent (where's the support for the LCC with AT&T TV, does the cloud DVR support everything the real DVR can do, etc.) so they can't consider them equivalent.

All they have to do is say "since you are at an address with AT&T fiber we recommend AT&T TV" and if you insist you want Directv say "OK but since you are at an address with AT&T fiber you will have to pay for the install if you want Directv". Maybe those people will be the first to have to pay for install, though I expect that will become the norm for Directv within a couple years. Then they don't have to care what people choose, because they won't be on the hook for the up front cost.

 

[Claude Greiner]

You know it could be possible there is a converter that will take AT&T fiber and convert it to a signal that will work with Directv equipment, eliminating the need for a dish

 

[tritron]

You know it could be possible there is a converter that will take AT&T fiber and convert it to a signal that will work with Directv equipment, eliminating the need for a dish

The boxes stream over internet shows when viewer wants to rewind life broadcast i bet there is option program them to just stream from internet. Does anyone remember AT&T Broadband?

 

[Jimbo]

Why would they refuse to sell you Directv if you are at an address with AT&T TV? You can't get NFLST with AT&T TV can you? You can't get 4K...

They will never be exactly equivalent (where's the support for the LCC with AT&T TV, does the cloud DVR support everything the real DVR can do, etc.) so they can't consider them equivalent.

All they have to do is say "since you are at an address with AT&T fiber we recommend AT&T TV" and if you insist you want Directv say "OK but since you are at an address with AT&T fiber you will have to pay for the install if you want Directv". Maybe those people will be the first to have to pay for install, though I expect that will become the norm for Directv within a couple years. Then they don't have to care what people choose, because they won't be on the hook for the up front cost.

I think if they told people they could go without a 2 year commitment if they pay the 100 dollar install, that would be a fair deal.

Of course they Could go back to the way it use to be and allow your own installs, but that would cause More truck rolls instead of less.

 

[Inclined Orbit]

Yea, a quarter million $$ Cisco router in each house fed by an OC192 fiber. All those channels take up a lot of band width.

Ok, maybe that is a little extreme and an OC48 would probably carry most everything, but its still a lot of BW to have all those channels available into someones house like what comes raining down out of the sky right now.

You know it could be possible there is a converter that will take AT&T fiber and convert it to a signal that will work with Directv equipment, eliminating the need for a dish

 

[Claude Greiner]

I think if they told people they could go without a 2 year commitment if they pay the 100 dollar install, that would be a fair deal.

Of course they Could go back to the way it use to be and allow your own installs, but that would cause More truck rolls instead of less.

People would rather do the contract than pay $100

 

[Jimbo]

People would rather do the contract than pay $100

Really ?
They would rather be tied into 24 months ?

I wouldn't go that route if I had the option.

 

[Juan]

1 gig internet to the home is more popular than you realize....businesses can get 10gig

Yea, a quarter million $$ Cisco router in each house fed by an OC192 fiber. All those channels take up a lot of band width.

Ok, maybe that is a little extreme and an OC48 would probably carry most everything, but its still a lot of BW to have all those channels available into someones house like what comes raining down out of the sky right now.

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[SamCdbs]

This weekend I was at my local spot. We were watching the NFL game. Maybe 20 people in there, maybe half of those on the wi-fi. The place has the very best internet available in the area, Comcast Business. Killer internet. Some guy asks for a particular basketball game at halftime. Barkeep asks me what channel its on (I’m sort of that guy in my group), and I said, umm, its on ESPN Plus, internet. So, trying to keep the customer happy, he spools up the internet and the app, and after almost two minutes the game comes on, stuttering and freezing and generally looking like, well, something on the internet.

Quickly over, switched back on the DirecTV for the NFL second half, in DBS perfection, as always.

Which is why internet is light years from replacing DBS,.

 

[Bruce]

This weekend I was at my local spot. We were watching the NFL game. Maybe 20 people in there, maybe half of those on the wi-fi. The place has the very best internet available in the area, Comcast Business. Killer internet. Some guy asks for a particular basketball game at halftime. Barkeep asks me what channel its on (I’m sort of that guy in my group), and I said, umm, its on ESPN Plus, internet. So, trying to keep the customer happy, he spools up the internet and the app, and after almost two minutes the game comes on, stuttering and freezing and generally looking like, well, something on the internet.

Quickly over, switched back on the DirecTV for the NFL second half, in DBS perfection, as always.

Which is why internet is light years from replacing DBS,.

Comcast Business has different tiers for speed just like the consumer version does, if Sunday Ticket does go online they will just have to pony up more $$$ to increase the speed to handle more streams.

It could also be a case of needing a new router to handle the increase demand.

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[Juan]

The bar needs a real internet connection...probably not available

This weekend I was at my local spot. We were watching the NFL game. Maybe 20 people in there, maybe half of those on the wi-fi. The place has the very best internet available in the area, Comcast Business. Killer internet. Some guy asks for a particular basketball game at halftime. Barkeep asks me what channel its on (I’m sort of that guy in my group), and I said, umm, its on ESPN Plus, internet. So, trying to keep the customer happy, he spools up the internet and the app, and after almost two minutes the game comes on, stuttering and freezing and generally looking like, well, something on the internet.

Quickly over, switched back on the DirecTV for the NFL second half, in DBS perfection, as always.

Which is why internet is light years from replacing DBS,.

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[Claude Greiner]

Really ?
They would rather be tied into 24 months ?

I wouldn't go that route if I had the option.

I’m talking the average customer. They would sign a 5 year contract if it meant they didn’t need to pay $50 for an install.

 

[Claude Greiner]

1 gig internet to the home is more popular than you realize....businesses can get 10gig

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Believe it or not, most customers will get the cheapest package available.

I probably sell 700 Comcast internet packages per month. Maybe 10 customers get the full gig

 

[Juan]

250 should be fine unless you are a bar with multiple streams

Believe it or not, most customers will get the cheapest package available.

I probably sell 700 Comcast internet packages per month. Maybe 10 customers get the full gig

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[Bruce]

250 should be fine unless you are a bar with multiple streams

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Actually 300 at a minimum for consumers with Comcast, that way you can avoid the Data Cap with XFi Advantage.

I have gig with XFi by the way and not giving it up.


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[SamCdbs]

Comcast Business has different tiers for speed just like the consumer version does, if Sunday Ticket does go online they will just have to pony up more $$$ to increase the speed to handle more streams.

It could also be a case of needing a new router to handle the increase demand.

Nope, both are the best available. Internet live TV is just not ready for prime time.

 

[Bruce]

Nope, both are the best available. Internet live TV is just not ready for prime time.

What do you mean by nope?

Just went to Comcast Business site and they show 5 different tier-25, 75, 150, 300 and 1g.

If this bar only had 25 or even 75 and they had 10 people on it, of course someone is going to have trouble streaming.

Small Business Internet Service | Comcast Business

business.comcast.com

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[dweber]

For mid Ohio the fastest internet available is with Spectrum and the maximum speed is 100 Mbps download and 10 Mbps upload. High speed internet is only available in the cities. Thus satellite will be the best solution for the foreseeable future.


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