Okay, I understand what both of you are saying. So, I will keep looking into a large dish but I still want to see if I might pick something. I get really amped when it comes to challenges. If things are too easy I get bored fast. So harshness, don't think I'm ignoring your advice. I get it, most people would give up if they don't get some sort signal right away. But I get a little stubborn if I think I can make something work and after reading some of the post on other threads I think I can get a set up going. Even one channel is a start. That's all I want, just a start.