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[Titanium]

I've been looking a bit at those recent 4k receivers (this Edison, the Octagon, etc.), but one spec I'm not finding anywhere is their demodulation capabilities... In other words, how well do they handle 16apsk and 32apsk (if at all)?

Here are the detailed OS mio 4K modulation specifications provided by Edision:

Interactive services profile is supported

Both normal (64800 bits) and short (16200 bits) FECFRAME are supported

Normal FECFRAME Symbol Rates:
QPSK 1- 60 MSps
8PSK 1- 60 MSps
16APSK 1- 58 MSps
32APSK 1- 55 MSps
64APSK 1- 34 MSps

Short FECFRAME Symbol Rates:
QPSK 1- 56 MSps
8PSK 1- 55 MSps
16APSK 1- 51 MSps
32APSK 1- 45 MSps

CCM /VCM / ACM supported

Appears that the shipment will arrive early! Estimated to clear customs tomorrow for Friday delivery.

 

[Brct203]

Here are the detailed OS mio 4K modulation specifications provided by Edision:

Interactive services profile is supported

Both normal (64800 bits) and short (16200 bits) FECFRAME are supported

Normal FECFRAME Symbol Rates:
QPSK 1- 60 MSps
8PSK 1- 60 MSps
16APSK 1- 58 MSps
32APSK 1- 55 MSps
64APSK 1- 34 MSps

Short FECFRAME Symbol Rates:
QPSK 1- 56 MSps
8PSK 1- 55 MSps
16APSK 1- 51 MSps
32APSK 1- 45 MSps

CCM /VCM / ACM supported

Appears that the shipment will arrive early! Estimated to clear customs tomorrow for Friday delivery.

Thanks for the info Brian! 64APSK, now that's a challenge!

 

[primestar31]

Appears that the shipment will arrive early! Estimated to clear customs tomorrow for Friday delivery.

Brian, just how difficult is it to setup and operate one of these types of FTA receivers, versus say the android ones, like the Amiko A3 which was a problem child at times? I assume they are far more stable than the A3 was?

I really, really, REALLY just want an FTA receiver with a perfect clock and superior DVR controls, at least comparable to the DVR capabilities of your old MicroHD receiver. The MicroHD has some odd quirks now and again, but I'm wise to them and work around them. I like the Amiko H.265, but it can't come close to the DVR abilities of the MicroHD, at least with the present firmware. Apparently, Europeans don't care about good DVR controls? Beats me. If it did have that, I'd be happy and it would be my main receiver for now. With any new receiver, I'd also just as soon as find the particular firmware that works best for just watching tv, along with that DVR ability, and leave it alone as long as it continues to work well.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Brian, just how difficult is it to setup and operate one of these types of FTA receivers, versus say the android ones, like the Amiko A3 which was a problem child at times? I assume they are far more stable than the A3 was?

I really, really, REALLY just want an FTA receiver with a perfect clock and superior DVR controls, at least comparable to the DVR capabilities of your old MicroHD receiver. The MicroHD has some odd quirks now and again, but I'm wise to them and work around them. I like the Amiko H.265, but it can't come close to the DVR abilities of the MicroHD, at least with the present firmware. Apparently, Europeans don't care about good DVR controls? Beats me. If it did have that, I'd be happy and it would be my main receiver for now. With any new receiver, I'd also just as soon as find the particular firmware that works best for just watching tv, along with that DVR ability, and leave it alone as long as it continues to work well.

If it's anything similar to the VU+ Zero 4K which runs Enigma 2, then it comes with a slight learning curve but nothing you wouldn't be able to figure out. raydio helped me configure mine and even though there are a zillion options, it's really not that hard to use.

 

[Titanium]

The great thing about Enigma 2 is that the user learns the menus of the OS and not the menus of a specific STB. For example, using the OpenPLI E2 build on a Vu+ Zero 4K will be nearly identical to operating on an OS mio 4K.

E2 OS offers a ton of menu settings, but set-up consists of the same steps of any appliance STB. While it will likely be overwhelming to a newbie, a typical hobbyist will recognize most of the menu settings and easily set-up the STB.

Configure the video output, connect to your router, set the time reference, choose visible satellites from the list, configure the LNB(s), switch(es) and motor settings, scan and organize channels, attach a USB drive, set program timers.

Add-ons can be downloaded to add features such as skins, EPG files, weather, Kodi, ATSC OTA and SDR dongles, custom satellite/transponder lists, etc. The user experience will be different depending on which E2 build you select. In my opinion, the OpenPLI is a great reliable starter and usually is quickly updated with frequent builds including new features. If you want to be cutting edge, try OpenVIX.

While I had great hope for STBs running Android OS, the realities were that it yielded an unreliable experience since it was not optimized for satellite functions. While I loved the availability of apps to suit any want or need, the Android updates seemed to constantly be breaking some function.

I was not a fan of the early Enigma 2 OS, but it has matured and become a first class STB OS. The final hurdle was blindscan accuracy and service logging speed. Now that scanning and logging rivals and surpasses appliance STBs, I truly believe the future of STBs is with open source operating systems. E2 is certainly leading the industry evolution.

For the DVR crowd there are many addons. Does it get any better than integrating with Plex?

 

[. Raine]

Hey, Brian, will it be able to receive the Music Choice channels on 125 west?

 

[Titanium]

Hey, Brian, will it be able to receive the Music Choice channels on 125 west?

Yes, the OS mio 4K supports CCM, ACM and VCM.

 

[N6BY]

I wonder if I can program this receiver to receive NOAA GRB Weather data and stream it to a PC for processing?

 

[wallyhts]

very cool I may have to get a 4k tv and new stb now

Any chance of some videos?

 

[Chewie]

I copy some of the screens of the OpenPLI Image on my Zero 4K receiver, I had to zip it the document is to big, I hope it could be open.
I will post some more if this works.
Regards.
Tunder

 

[raydio]

Tunder that was great...It will give those that don't know about OpenPli a good beginning!

 

[Chewie]

Hello Raydio
I play around with about 4 different images on my Zero 4k and they all are very similar on menus and settings, so you learn one you learn them all and after that you are hooked on Enigma2.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Hello Raydio
I play around with about 4 different images on my Zero 4k and they all are very similar on menus and settings, so you learn one you learn them all and after that you are hooked on Enigma2.

The images are all similar; its the hardware that differs. For some reason the VU+ Zero 4K can't handle certain video streams that other appliances can. Hoping this new box can

 

[Chewie]

which video streams are you referring too ?

 

[comfortably_numb]

which video streams are you referring too ?

On 103W, the NC-1 through NC-8 mux, 12080 H 30000, and on 91W, the NPR radio mux, 11913 V 2000

On the VU+ the NC-1 through NC-8 mux displays audio but no video. The NPR mux scans in but plays no audio.

We have posted threads in the VU forum about this but haven't received any response. I've tried several different images and it's the same for all of them, so I'm speculating it is a hardware issue.

The question at hand is if Titanium's new hardware rectifies the issues

 

[primestar31]

Brian, another question I just thought of: Does this have a processor capable of locking properly those flaky channels on 101W, when they start stuttering again?

 

[SDA_FL_USA]

I really, really, REALLY just want an FTA receiver with a perfect clock and superior DVR controls, at least comparable to the DVR capabilities of your old MicroHD receiver. The MicroHD has some odd quirks now and again, but I'm wise to them and work around them. I like the Amiko H.265, but it can't come close to the DVR abilities of the MicroHD, at least with the present firmware. Apparently, Europeans don't care about good DVR controls? Beats me. If it did have that, I'd be happy and it would be my main receiver for now. With any new receiver, I'd also just as soon as find the particular firmware that works best for just watching tv, along with that DVR ability, and leave it alone as long as it continues to work well.

As for keeping a perfect clock I use the hauppauge WinTV 950Q for ATSC and use a ATSC channel as the start up service when the receiver boots up. It gets the time and date from that OTA service. The DVR and timers are great.

 

[Titanium]

Brian, another question I just thought of: Does this have a processor capable of locking properly those flaky channels on 101W, when they start stuttering again?

This is only a guess since the decoding problem hasn't happened recently... Legacy STBs based on Broadcom chipsets did not experience the decode issues on these Wiegel services when other chipsets were reporting the problem.

Disclaimer: The reality of the OS mio 4K decoding of the Wiegel services might prove to not mirror my guess... LOL

 

[raydio]

Brian any movement on these questions....

On 103W, the NC-1 through NC-8 mux, 12080 H 30000, and on 91W, the NPR radio mux, 11913 V 2000

On the VU+ the NC-1 through NC-8 mux displays audio but no video. The NPR mux scans in but plays no audio.

We have posted threads in the VU forum about this but haven't received any response. I've tried several different images and it's the same for all of them, so I'm speculating it is a hardware issue.

The question at hand is if Titanium's new hardware rectifies the issues

 

[Titanium]

Brian any movement on these questions....

On 103W, the NC-1 through NC-8 mux, 12080 H 30000, and on 91W, the NPR radio mux, 11913 V 2000

On the VU+ the NC-1 through NC-8 mux displays audio but no video. The NPR mux scans in but plays no audio.

We have posted threads in the VU forum about this but haven't received any response. I've tried several different images and it's the same for all of them, so I'm speculating it is a hardware issue.

The question at hand is if Titanium's new hardware rectifies the issues

Please see post #20.

Might have time to check Friday or over the weekend. Still working out of the office and no time, but will report prior to shipping product.

Did you provide the VU+/OpenPLI/ Open???groups a TS file of the mux? Without a file to test, I doubt anyone in Europe would respond. I doubt that VU+ would engage and instead leave the question response up to Engima2 teams.