Thought to Ponder: Here is one thing NCAA football does better than NCAA basketball
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I wouldnt have included Miss State on the cupcake list this year. They were very solid.
Historically they are not though, my list was of the historic door mats of the SEC otherwise I would have included UGA who reaked his year.
Total nonsense. Who says Kansas and Ohio St. were best? RPI? Polls? Sandra?
There is a slippery slope that is impossible to ignore here - you open up a sport to the judging process, just like football. The only benefit basketball has, is a greater sample size (ie you're more likely to get more accurate "ratings" as season goes on), but it's still not good enough.
Give me the tournament, where ratings are part of the process, but only a part, and let the rest play out. Best combo.
Question...if the NCAA tournament were all seven game series instead of one-and-done, with the higher seeded team getting home court advantage, do you think we'd have a better chance of getting the two best teams in the finals? If you say no, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree and move on.
Obviously this is purely hypothetical and there is no reason to respond with a bunch of reasons why 67 seven games series are not logistically possible. We all know what they are.
But the point remains that a seven game series would give you a better chance of the best team advancing than one-and-done on a neutral court. That's not the RPI speaking, that's not polls speaking, that's not Sandra speaking...that's the GAMES speaking.
Sandra
you might as well ask if playing games on Mars would get a better read on things.
UConn just broke the record for games played in a season with 41. How many best-of series would you have?
UConn just broke the record for games played in a season with 41. How many best-of series would you have?
And, how nice of the jackwagon head coach from Northern Arizona to prove my point for me:
Connecticut garners 30 of 31 first-place votes in final ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll - ESPN
I'm not sure what's more absurd - not voting the champ #1, or having a poll at all post-tournament.
Connecticut garners 30 of 31 first-place votes in final ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll - ESPN
I'm not sure what's more absurd - not voting the champ #1, or having a poll at all post-tournament.
Telling us why it's not logistically possible, when I specifically said we can all agree it's not logistically possible, so we don't need reasons...check.
Must be a UConn grad.
Sandra
Sorry, guess I wasn't clear enough:
Your point is so absurd, that it really shouldn't even be commented on.
Your point is so absurd, that it really shouldn't even be commented on.
My point is that a seven game series, where one team has home court advantage, would give you a better chance of the best team advancing than one-and-done on a neutral court. If you want to think that's absurd...feel free to not comment.
Sandra
Yes it would, but would require a lot less teams in the tournament.
Same argument could be made for the NFL, wouldn't a best of ... have a better chance of the best team advancing?
As it is, a series of ... removes the excitement factor and is probably why baseball's playoff ratings are pathetic.
So a 60th ranked team gets hot and wins 6 games in a row and they are the BEST in the Nation over the year ?
NO, they were the best in a three week period.
Championships are won at the end though, it's that way for every sport except div-1a football.
If a team was the best, then they'd do what was needed to do, and that's win in the playoffs, and is why UConn is the champ.
besides, Kansas & Ohio St. did not play anywhere near the same schedule as each other or UConn as their all in different conferences, so a playoff/tournament was needed. And neither Kansas & Ohio St. were up to what was needed to win it.
Exactly!
If BYU or San Diego St went undefeated and then lost their only game in the tournament would those people be saying the same thing about them deserving to be #1. Heck NO!!!
Or even New England a few years back. Won everything except the game at the end. No one was going around saying the Patroits were really the NFL Champions instead of the Giants.
And nobody here is saying Connecticut is not the real champion. They won it fair and square.
Sandra
What about this post from Jimbo?
That is what ramy and I were responding to. Not to mention the idiot voter who voted Ohio St. as number 1 after the tournament.
If the NCAA tournament is supposed to determine the champion then why is there even a poll after the tournament??
