With FTA, this is exactly the wrong thing to do. If they're going to cable or subscription based services they don't want people watching for free. If it comes to their attention that a large number of people are watching their programming for free they're going to put an end to it and hope that many or at least some of those people will then subscribe to one of the providers that carry their programming. So letting them know that alot of us were watching their programming for free and now miss it will only serve to make them more inclined to ensure that it's no longer possible. Of course it probably doesn't matter now anyway and it was inevitable that this would happen anyway as the cable companies they signed deals with probably forced them to either encrypt or no longer make their signal available FTA.
The Tube Gone?
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With FTA, this is exactly the wrong thing to do. If they're going to cable or subscription based services they don't want people watching for free. If it comes to their attention that a large number of people are watching their programming for free they're going to put an end to it and hope that many or at least some of those people will then subscribe to one of the providers that carry their programming. So letting them know that alot of us were watching their programming for free and now miss it will only serve to make them more inclined to ensure that it's no longer possible. Of course it probably doesn't matter now anyway and it was inevitable that this would happen anyway as the cable companies they signed deals with probably forced them to either encrypt or no longer make their signal available FTA.
Stefan said:
so true....remember..........
FTA....here today...might be gone tomorrow. We can't really say anything because its free
You see . . . first we give it away for free . . . then . . . once they are hooked . . . we make em pay for it. I remember when B4U could be picked up on Echsotar 3 if you subscribed to SkyAngel. The signal was not being blocked. Once the channel was established, you had to pay for it.
The Tube is what MTV once was (sort of), so I'm sure the big dogs of the media industry noticed it's appeal and marketabilty to those of us from the 70's 80's and 90s. How wierd is that? I'm now the one companies target because I'm the middle class 30-something group that earns the money in America.
The Tube is what MTV once was (sort of), so I'm sure the big dogs of the media industry noticed it's appeal and marketabilty to those of us from the 70's 80's and 90s. How wierd is that? I'm now the one companies target because I'm the middle class 30-something group that earns the money in America.
It'll be interesting to see if 'Gas' has any comment on this.
The Tube still needs to be uplinked someplace.
Can anyone who sees it OTA verify if the new channel is showing there too? The nearest OTA that has it for me is 125 miles away (Tucson, AZ) and I think there is a mountain in the way.
Shawn
The Tube still needs to be uplinked someplace.
Can anyone who sees it OTA verify if the new channel is showing there too? The nearest OTA that has it for me is 125 miles away (Tucson, AZ) and I think there is a mountain in the way
.Shawn
FTA seems to be slowly dying....
Al
I agree with the second part, but how do you figure "free to air" is dying. If I count my C-band as free to air, I've been watching some type of free to air for 27-28 years. And nearly every time I do a blind search, I find something new. Granted, it may not be a regular programming channel, but it's free to air. The thing that seems to be slowly dying is 4dtv. That's the real sad shame. I don't think FTA will ever die, it will surely change, as it already has, some will lose interest and newbies will take there place, but it will never die. The next major change will probably be mpeg 4. I just hope it's not to expensive.maddawg said:
Al
Will this just apply to the Equity channels on G10R Ku & Galaxy 3C C-Band?Gas said:
Thanks,
Shawn
There is plenty of FTA on C-band.. and besides.. you can pick up a brand new 180cm dish for $180 shipped to you, which will do alot more for you then just get one channel.. I mean, some of us here have spent more money then that on just LNBs and DiSEqC Switches..
I think maddawg was referring to the 2nd part of his post. Some of us (me included) can't put C-Band up for various reasons
Mine is the HOA...and the fact they won't let me bury a dish in the ground.
Mine is the HOA...and the fact they won't let me bury a dish in the ground.
maddawg said:
damn...I didnt know the US/CAD $$ conversion was THAT bad
Most people will GIVE you their old C-Band...sportsbars that dont use them anymore are great to find..
FWIW, I setup a small C/Ku dish which assuming the dish costs the same (<$50) and I spent about $300 (US) getting it up and running (ribbon Cable / tools / VBOX / actuator / pole / cement). I spent almost another $300 to get the C/Ku feedhorn updated with high end Norsats.
So far.... pointing via 1.2 is a pain. A 1.2M offset dish on a HH120 using USALS would be VERY welcome here. I laugh when the C-band guys talk about what a pain the SG2100 etc are to setup vs a polar mount. Give me a HH motor any day of the week. I can peak a SG2100 in no time.
The good new - my VBOX doesn't seem to lose positions like some here have described.
I'll have to check tonight and see if I can get the Tube with my dish. I can't get Imagine Asian on IA13 (121w) in spite of pegging the meter on other transponders on the same sat.
I do get 'FUSE' though on 121. Its current stuff - like what MTV would play if they played music videos. BTW - anyone see the 'We don't play music' commercials on MTV? lol.
Shawn
So far.... pointing via 1.2 is a pain. A 1.2M offset dish on a HH120 using USALS would be VERY welcome here. I laugh when the C-band guys talk about what a pain the SG2100 etc are to setup vs a polar mount. Give me a HH motor any day of the week. I can peak a SG2100 in no time.
The good new - my VBOX doesn't seem to lose positions like some here have described.
I'll have to check tonight and see if I can get the Tube with my dish. I can't get Imagine Asian on IA13 (121w) in spite of pegging the meter on other transponders on the same sat
.I do get 'FUSE' though on 121. Its current stuff - like what MTV would play if they played music videos. BTW - anyone see the 'We don't play music' commercials on MTV? lol.
Shawn
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