The OFFICIAL DISH / HBO Thread

[ekilgus]

I don't see it having any effect unless it prompts HBO to drop their excessive subscriber count demand.

That's kind of what I was alluding to. It's one way to get back a couple of million subscribers. I read that post GOT subscriber losses for HBO could approach 40%.

 

[Rolling Joe]

I just read that Comcast is dropping Cinemax. I wonder how this might affect the Dish/HBO stalemate?

Comcast is not dropping it completely. I wondered about that "bereaved customers" line at the bottom of the Multichannel piece and in the original article on Cablefax, we get the rest of the story:

Some packages will still feature Cinemax and customers can subscribe to the premium net on an a la carte basis for $12/month. However, it’s clear from messaging that Hitz is meant to be a Cinemax substitute for many. “Most of the movies on Cinemax have also aired on HBO. By offering Hitz instead, we’ll be delivering customers a better variety of content,” Comcast said.

So, it's clearly a way to add product value, not necessarily a cost saver or a way to 'stick it' to AT&T.

 

[Cheddar_Head]

Yea, it looks like AT&T is destroying another once great product and company.

I would say it is Cingular destroying another great company, Cingular bought ATT and then changed their name to ATT before going on to destroy all the rest. Yeah I know nitpicking but then somebody has to pick the nits.

 

[edisonprime]

I would say it is Cingular destroying another great company, Cingular bought ATT and then changed their name to ATT before going on to destroy all the rest. Yeah I know nitpicking but then somebody has to pick the nits.

I'm probably wrong (memory's not that great on that), but didn't Cingular merge with Verizon?

 

[edisonprime]

I'm probably wrong (memory's not that great on that), but didn't Cingular merge with Verizon?

Looked it up. Yeah they merged with AT&T, not Verizon.

 

[Cheddar_Head]

I'm probably wrong (memory's not that great on that), but didn't Cingular merge with Verizon?

Nope, I was an ATT customer at the time and Cingular had the gall to try and charge me to get a new phone and also charge me an extra $36 per line to convert to the Cingular network.

From AT&T To Cingular And Back Again

 

[pattykay]

I would say quite the opposite. Dish starting to remove the placeholder channels shows that Dish is finally giving up on ever bringing HBO and Cinemax back. Look for the HDNet Movies on 300 and 310, the info channels on 301 and 311, and possibly even the Netflix app on 302, to all be removed soon. No word yet on what Dish may be putting on those channels next, but my money is still on Starz.

Things to make you go "hmmm..."
Dish just relabeled the "official" Netflix channel 370 as NFLX, but channel 302 still has the old label of NTFLX. Also, while channel 370 has the Netflix logo in the Guide, channel 302 continues to only show the Dish logo. Since Dish did not bother to update channel 302, I would think that is another sign pointing to an impending removal of that channel. For what it's worth, I think I like the old NTFLX label better. NFLX could easily be misinterpreted as being an NFL-related channel. NFLIX would be slightly better, but could still have the same problem.

 

[n0qcu]

I would say it is Cingular destroying another great company, Cingular bought ATT and then changed their name to ATT before going on to destroy all the rest. Yeah I know nitpicking but then somebody has to pick the nits.

That may be true but ATT also destroyed every company they bought before they were bought so it must be any company named ATT

 

[edisonprime]

Nope, I was an ATT customer at the time and Cingular had the gall to try and charge me to get a new phone and also charge me an extra $36 per line to convert to the Cingular network.

From AT&T To Cingular And Back Again

If you look at my post above I corrected myself.

 

[NashGuy]

So, it's clearly a way to add product value, not necessarily a cost saver or a way to 'stick it' to AT&T.

Ha. That's how Comcast is spinning it but it's definitely a cost-saver for them. Instead of paying AT&T whatever the wholesale rate is for each of those Cinemax subscribers (maybe $6 each), Comcast is paying much less to give them Hitz, which will be a collection of 200+ (probably old) movies.

I'm wondering if Cinemax is going to survive as its own separate service or if AT&T might fold it into their big streaming service to launch this fall, which is rumored to be named HBO Max. That name suggests that it's a combo of HBO + Cinemax. From everything I read, it definitely sounds like AT&T is throwing just about everything they've got (except for sports and news) into HBO Max to make it as big and appealing as possible to turn HBO into a Netflix killer. Cinemax really doesn't have a very big library of original content (and they show pretty much the same movies as HBO) but it's possible that it will get dumped into the new streaming service.

 

[Cubs1]

I need to know when hbo and Cinemax coming back I’m getting sick of wait and wait And I did be patient and now soon will be 8 month it’s not fair other cable companies already agreement faster than dish I Hear on news I need bring back channels just do it already bring back hbo and Cinemax agreement done don’t wait long month I love dish service I really i do one thing I don’t like wait longer months it’s suppose less month agreement done not 8 month longer it’s no make sense at all and I’m not interested about hbo now and only I interested hbo and Cinemax back that channels that it I will be happy thank you


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[JSheridan]

OK then, again.

I don't think HBO/MAX are coming back to Dish. Time to move on.

 

[Cubs1]

Well they say they still negotiating trying bring back I did call consumer service they say still negotiating


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[JSheridan]

Well they say they still negotiating trying bring back I did call consumer service they say still negotiating


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They'll tell you pretty much anything to get you off the phone.

 

[Cubs1]

Well I’m deaf and I don’t speak phone thank you


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[les.warden]

First, like your handle..GO CUBS!

We moved to HBO NOW app. Running it on AppleTV. Main reason was for final season of GoT. It works really well. IMO, after time, more people will move on to other methods, so their negotiations may be for naught and fall through.

 

[omeletpants]

I need to know when hbo and Cinemax coming back I’m getting sick of wait and wait And I did be patient and now soon will be 8 month it’s not fair other cable companies already agreement faster than dish I Hear on news I need bring back channels just do it already bring back hbo and Cinemax agreement done don’t wait long month I love dish service I really i do one thing I don’t like wait longer months it’s suppose less month agreement done not 8 month longer it’s no make sense at all and I’m not interested about hbo now and only I interested hbo and Cinemax back that channels that it I will be happy thank you

Punctuation is your friend. Your post makes me sad

 

[KAB]

First, like your handle..GO CUBS!

We moved to HBO NOW app. Running it on AppleTV. Main reason was for final season of GoT. It works really well. IMO, after time, more people will move on to other methods, so their negotiations may be for naught and fall through.

Yeh, I prefer HBO Now to "the old ways".

 

[navychop]

You can keep asking, but the answer is the same.

HBO is almost certainly NOT coming back to Dish. HBO is changing anyway, becoming more like Netflix. So HBO as we know it is going away everywhere.


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[LQQK]

Yeh, I prefer HBO Now to "the old ways".

Why?

I/We prefer watching what's currently airing or setting the DVR...It's more convenient to have an All-N-1 Package than having to have multiple products & remotes for our multiple TVs to get our Fix!

HEY DISH-->I'm willing to pay for HBO/Cinemax! I don't like higher fees...BUT...I'm sure I'm not alone if ya offered it.