The OFFICIAL DISH / HBO Thread

[NYDutch]

I spoke with a neighbor this morning that I recalled having HBO on his Dish account to see what changes he had made. He said he just recently realized he was still paying for HBO when he saw the take down price reduction on his bill, but hadn't watched it in months. Obviously he wasn't planning to make any changes because of it beyond making the pricee reduction permanent. I suspect at least some percentage of those 2 million Dish/HBO subscribers have also found they get along fine without it and are enjoying the savings instead.

 

[jerryez]

It all starts with the actors being over paid $100 million dollars to star in a movie,the top five actors in Big Bang getting over 300,000 dollars per episode tp act for 10 minutes or less in a 20 minute comedy. Then add in directors, CEO's getting 120 million per year. Everybody is so greedy to get their cut of the pie just keeps driving prices up. Then ATT demanding to be paid for people that do no even subscribe. Where does it end?

 

[comfortably_numb]

It all starts with the actors being over paid $100 million dollars to star in a movie,the top five actors in Big Bang getting over 300,000 dollars per episode tp act for 10 minutes or less in a 20 minute comedy. Then add in directors, CEO's getting 120 million per year. Everybody is so greedy to get their cut of the pie just keeps driving prices up. Then ATT demanding to be paid for people that do no even subscribe. Where does it end?

You could say the same thing about pro athletes..

It ends when enough people vote with their wallets

 

[ekilgus]

I did miss being able to watch snippets of HBO/Cinemax programming from time to time because the channels were always there. Aside from that their absence made me realize how little I watch these channels.

There are exceptions such as Westworld and Game of Thrones, but there are options. For instance, then HBO gets stuff I want to watch I'll subscribe to HBO NOW. This service is month to month and requires no commitment, which means I'll watch what I want to watch then cancel, and I'll repeat this process when HBO gets more stuff I want to watch.

I suspect HBO won't like this approach, they prefer to have their hooks into the subscriber long term. After all, some of their programming costs a lot.
So if HBO/Cinemax never returns to Dish, I'll survive, and if these channels do eventually return, I may elect to not get them.

 

[Cheddar_Head]

It all starts with the actors being over paid $100 million dollars to star in a movie,the top five actors in Big Bang getting over 300,000 dollars per episode tp act for 10 minutes or less in a 20 minute comedy. Then add in directors, CEO's getting 120 million per year. Everybody is so greedy to get their cut of the pie just keeps driving prices up. Then ATT demanding to be paid for people that do no even subscribe. Where does it end?

Just a bit oh hyperbole there don't you think?
Last year's highest paid actors (Annual not per movie) Not a single one at $100M:
20. Jeremy Renner: $19 million
19. Matt Damon: $21 million
18. Ryan Reynolds: $21.5 million
17. Jennifer Lawrence: $24 million
16. Jennifer Aniston: $25.5 million
15. Emma Stone: $26 million
14. Ryan Gosling: $29 million
13. Samuel L. Jackson: $30.5 million
12. Tom Hanks: $31 million
11. Chris Hemsworth: $31.5 million

10. Akshay Kumar: $35.5 million
9. Salman Khan: $37 million
8. Shah Rukh Khan: $38 million
7. Tom Cruise: $43 million
6. Robert Downey Jr.: $48 million
5. Jackie Chan: $49 million
4. Adam Sandler: $50.5 million
3. Vin Diesel: $54.5 million
2. Dwayne Johnson: $65 million
1. Mark Wahlberg: $68 million

I don't believe that movie prices would go down if those salaries did so why complain about their salaries. I pay to see the actors and athletes not the franchise or studio owners so I prefer the money go to the athletes and actors. If you think they earn too much you can always not watch them.

 

[navychop]

I don’t recognize several of those names.

I’m getting old.


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[comfortably_numb]

I’m getting old

It's ok, we still love you.

 

[ChadT41]

Just a bit oh hyperbole there don't you think?
Last year's highest paid actors (Annual not per movie) Not a single one at $100M:
20. Jeremy Renner: $19 million
19. Matt Damon: $21 million
18. Ryan Reynolds: $21.5 million
17. Jennifer Lawrence: $24 million
16. Jennifer Aniston: $25.5 million
15. Emma Stone: $26 million
14. Ryan Gosling: $29 million
13. Samuel L. Jackson: $30.5 million
12. Tom Hanks: $31 million
11. Chris Hemsworth: $31.5 million

10. Akshay Kumar: $35.5 million
9. Salman Khan: $37 million
8. Shah Rukh Khan: $38 million
7. Tom Cruise: $43 million
6. Robert Downey Jr.: $48 million
5. Jackie Chan: $49 million
4. Adam Sandler: $50.5 million
3. Vin Diesel: $54.5 million
2. Dwayne Johnson: $65 million
1. Mark Wahlberg: $68 million

I don't believe that movie prices would go down if those salaries did so why complain about their salaries. I pay to see the actors and athletes not the franchise or studio owners so I prefer the money go to the athletes and actors. If you think they earn too much you can always not watch them.

That’s what I did. When I do watch movies, it is usually B movies, and I love them. In addition, I pretty much quit watching sports, except my vice. Wrestling. And they are paid peanuts in comparison.

 

[PHXHoward]

True Detective starts on Sunday. This dispute is starting to hurt. Can only imagine that HBO is losing a lot of money by this point.

 

[HipKat]

True Detective starts on Sunday. This dispute is starting to hurt. Can only imagine that HBO is losing a lot of money by this point.

I marked it on my Calendar so I remember to reinstate my HBO Now to watch it, plus Real Time is back on, next Friday

 

[Claude Greiner]

Wasn’t the agreement to temporarily allow HBO during negotiations going to be retroactive if a agreement was agreed to?

 

[tetrode]

My plan for dealing with HBO is to wait for GOT to return and subscribe (via Amazon channels or Hulu) long enough to catch up on GOT and a few other shows. Then they can go away for another year. This does require generous internet access.

 

[comfortably_numb]

My plan for dealing with HBO is to wait for GOT to return and subscribe (via Amazon channels or Hulu) long enough to catch up on GOT and a few other shows. Then they can go away for another year. This does require generous internet access.

This is exactly what I am going to do, except just for Westworld.

 

[ekilgus]

This is exactly what I am going to do, except just for Westworld.

That is also exactly what I'm doing. The absence of HBO/Cinemax has made me realize how remarkably little I watch of their programming. Aside from a few series, GOT, Westworld and an occasional first run movie, I don't watch HBO at all. If they weren't gone from Dish, I would have definitely always have subscribed to them, but probably no more.

I wonder if those at HBO/AT&T realize what they've actually done, or do they even care?

 

[pattykay]

To be honest, by this point Dish has proven that they can get along just fine without HBO and Cinemax. In fact, it looks like Dish is doubling down on this approach by no longer promoting Starz, either, which means that the Starz channels may be next to disappear. If that happens, Dish might as well just drop all of the premium movie services when each contract expires, and be done with it. Starting with Univision, then HBO/Cinemax, then whatever gets dropped next, we may very well be in the era of "permanent" channel removals.

 

[dishdude]

To be honest, by this point Dish has proven that they can get along just fine without HBO and Cinemax. In fact, it looks like Dish is doubling down on this approach by no longer promoting Starz, either, which means that the Starz channels may be next to disappear. If that happens, Dish might as well just drop all of the premium movie services when each contract expires, and be done with it. Starting with Univision, then HBO/Cinemax, then whatever gets dropped next, we may very well be in the era of "permanent" channel removals.

Interesting strategy, I'd like to know what they think the impact Univision had on churn, and I don't think we've seen a quarterly report since the HBO debacle.

Breaking up these huge packages is something the entire industry is going to need to look at, I think it's pretty obvious people are unwilling to pay $100+ a month to watch 3-5 channels.

 

[jerryez]

I never even heard of most of the ones you listed and wouldn't cross the street to see the others, even if their movies were free. So, you are right, I don't watch them.

 

[zippyfrog]

To be honest, by this point Dish has proven that they can get along just fine without HBO and Cinemax. In fact, it looks like Dish is doubling down on this approach by no longer promoting Starz, either, which means that the Starz channels may be next to disappear. If that happens, Dish might as well just drop all of the premium movie services when each contract expires, and be done with it. Starting with Univision, then HBO/Cinemax, then whatever gets dropped next, we may very well be in the era of "permanent" channel removals.

Agree 100%. I do see the less watched channels or the ones that don't make financial sense going dark permanently. The only things that are DVR proof right now are sports and news, right? Wouldn't it be ironic if some of those sports channels is what kept Dish going or were the most watched channels on Dish? Until the streaming can get to near live, that does make a difference for sports. I tried Playstation Vue and it was behind - I received notifications from my ESPN app on my phone before the play was seen through the streaming service.

I mentioned in the other thread that I do believe Starz is next. And I wouldn't be surprised if Showtime goes away in a couple of years. I believe Dish signed that contract just over a year ago, so we still have some time there.

 

[long_time_DNC]

If Starz/Encore and/or Epix and HDNet Movies go away, then I'll be getting Amazon Prime channels... I enjoy watching movies to much to be without some movie channels.

 

[PHXHoward]

I’m going to opt for Amazon Prime channel because it includes live streaming which is still important to us because we have people over for Real Time on Friday nights.