The End of DIRECTV?

[wvman]

We live less than 1/2 mile from a DSL line feeding 4 homes on a three mile stretch of road and can't get Frontier to bring DLS to 14 homes less than a half mile from this line. I even offered to pay for the half mile of 30 pair copper needed to upgrade the lines running to these homes. The repairmen are all for it, but I can't get the engineers to move on it.

 

[nelson61]

We live less than 1/2 mile from a DSL line feeding 4 homes on a three mile stretch of road and can't get Frontier to bring DLS to 14 homes less than a half mile from this line. I even offered to pay for the half mile of 30 pair copper needed to upgrade the lines running to these homes. The repairmen are all for it, but I can't get the engineers to move on it.

Find where he drinks beer on Friday nights

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[Juan]

We live less than 1/2 mile from a DSL line feeding 4 homes on a three mile stretch of road and can't get Frontier to bring DLS to 14 homes less than a half mile from this line. I even offered to pay for the half mile of 30 pair copper needed to upgrade the lines running to these homes. The repairmen are all for it, but I can't get the engineers to move on it.

DSL is limited by the distance from the CO

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[Jimbo]

DSL is limited by the distance from the CO

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As is Uverse Internet from the VRad .... farther you go out the less you get.

As are most internet providers I'd imagine.
Signal degrades eventually.

 

[wvman]

DSL is limited by the distance from the CO

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I am fully aware of that, but in this instance, that doesn't apply since it goes nearly 3 miles to four houses past a fork in the road that goes to my house.

 

[wvman]

Find where he drinks beer on Friday nights

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Frontier goes to great lengths to keep the contact information of their engineers hidden. However, I have a friend checking with his daughter's husband to get a phone number of one he knows. Since he works for the power company, he has to know the engineers contact info.

 

[slice1900]

I am fully aware of that, but in this instance, that doesn't apply since it goes nearly 3 miles to four houses past a fork in the road that goes to my house.

What matters is where the fiber ends at a remote terminal and copper goes from there to the house. Those houses are probably not served by the same remote terminal, and if they are they are CLOSER to it than you are. Most telcos won't support DSL at all beyond 3 miles, it is only good for a few megabits at that distance.

 

[EarDemon]

DSL is limited by the distance from the CO

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I am just shy of 15 miles from the Verizon CO, driving not as the crow flies. While I can't get it for whatever reason, not that I would ever want it, my aunt who lives around the corner from me, whose house I could see if not for some trees is able to get 3 Mb DSL via a remote terminal. My town, and three of it's surrounding towns are all rural and we don't have our own CO. The CO that serves all of us is a couple towns south of me and covers a pretty good chunk of geographic area. It think it was in 2011 or 2012 when it became available, so it's been a while, but not forever.

 

[Jimbo]

I am just shy of 15 miles from the Verizon CO, driving not as the crow flies. While I can't get it for whatever reason, not that I would ever want it, my aunt who lives around the corner from me, whose house I could see if not for some trees is able to get 3 Mb DSL via a remote terminal. My town, and three of it's surrounding towns are all rural and we don't have our own CO. The CO that serves all of us is a couple towns south of me and covers a pretty good chunk of geographic area. It think it was in 2011 or 2012 when it became available, so it's been a while, but not forever.

So your "Remote Terminal" must be what we have called a VRAD (but this does video as well in most cases)... in that case, the distance goes from the RT.

In my world, we go mostly 5000 ft from the VRAD (roughly) that said, its run down the roads, not directly to houses of course.

 

[raoul5788]

5000 ft? I'm about 3500 from the VRAD in my area and they only brought service in my neighborhood a few years ago. I think the tech told me they went to twisted pair to extend the distance.

 

[Jimbo]

5000 ft? I'm about 3500 from the VRAD in my area and they only brought service in my neighborhood a few years ago. I think the tech told me they went to twisted pair to extend the distance.

If they are just now using Bonded Pairs, it will get better ... in time.
I think the distance issue is more dealing with what card is used or maybe provisioning in the VRAD as our limit was also 3500 feet when it started.

 

[bamasat]

If they are just now using Bonded Pairs, it will get better ... in time..

Bonded twins here for a few years now and at 75 down with consistent 78+ /8+.
Bonded Downstream
Sync Rate : 90978


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[schneid]

I used to live in Carson City NV. Had a blistering fast 3mbs DSLconnection. After they installed a big white box, I stopped and talked to the tech punching wires on it. He clipped on to my pair at could get 9mbs. He stopped by the house later and was still getting 9mbs over copper. He said he'd send a message to the engineers in San Diego to get me better throughput. He did. I now had even more blistering 6mbs DSL. Solution? I moved to Brunswick County NC. I now have 1gb ATMC, AT&T, and Spectrum running through my front yard. I am now missing Tahoe along with the mountains and skiing and have a crappy neighbor. I still get TV as I have for two decades with DirecTV.

Moral: Be careful what you wish for. Other moral: Don't give up that dish until they pry it from your cold dead hands.

 

[raoul5788]

If they are just now using Bonded Pairs, it will get better ... in time.
I think the distance issue is more dealing with what card is used or maybe provisioning in the VRAD as our limit was also 3500 feet when it started.

Bonded, that's what he said, not twisted.

 

[Juan]

Bonded, that's what he said, not twisted.

Your best bet is 5g

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[raoul5788]

Your best bet is 5g

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Theoretically, but I have Cox cable in my town, it's actually pretty good.

 

[Juan]

Theoretically, but I have Cox cable in my town, it's actually pretty good.

I know..5g is smoke and mirrors until they deploy it...and then the promise will be 6g

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[Darrell S]

I know..5g is smoke and mirrors until they deploy it...and then the promise will be 6g

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They will probably just pull an Apple and skip to 7G. We don't need no stinking Iphone 9.

 

[ncted]

Is this the same Microsoft selling an operating system loaded with vulnerabilities that require constant updates and patches to keep it operable after being released to the public with full knowledge of that their software is defective, while using John Q. Public as a "Guinea Pig" to test their OP system..... ?

Not to mention the fact that Microsoft forces their customers to purchase a new OP system every few years, rather than building on the one we already own. Isn't that a bit like letting three wolves and a lamb decide what's for supper?

Well, to be fair, all software has bugs. All software of any consequence ships "incomplete." As for the upgrade cycle, Microsoft actually has stated that Windows 10 is the "last version of Windows." As for who to trust, I'd pick Microsoft over AT&T, Verizon, Spectrum, Comcast, et. al.

 

[bobvick]

If they are just now using Bonded Pairs, it will get better ... in time.
I think the distance issue is more dealing with what card is used or maybe provisioning in the VRAD as our limit was also 3500 feet when it started.

Does bonded pairs basically mean they use two pairs of lines coming to the premises, just like it sounds, for a total of four wires rather than just the old ‘tip and ring?’