Tell me why I should wait on the XIP receiver system?
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With the 922 on hold, and these not really for current setups, is there anything new on the horizon? I mean with Directv bringing this new 5 tuner box it changes the game a bit. 2 tuners really are not enough for many people any more, and then as much as I like the 722k, you gotta add a module and have OTA to get 2 xtra tuners.
Dish seemed to always have the edge on hardware, but I'm starting to wonder now. I'm tempted by the new HMC box at Directv, but will most likely stay with Dish. Are we heading towards a period where Directv = better PQ AND better hardware?
I wish theyd focus less time to buying crap like TMobile, and more time on upping their game, especially with less channels crammed on a TP.
Dish seemed to always have the edge on hardware, but I'm starting to wonder now. I'm tempted by the new HMC box at Directv, but will most likely stay with Dish. Are we heading towards a period where Directv = better PQ AND better hardware?
I wish theyd focus less time to buying crap like TMobile, and more time on upping their game, especially with less channels crammed on a TP.
Did a little more reading. The 813 is interesting to me, with 3 sat tuners and the ability to add 2 more via a USB OTA tuner. If this could record two OTA and 3 sat at the same time, thats pretty neat.
Scott mentioned the two tuner usb months ago when they first talked about the system. Look back in the start of the original 813 Xip thread and read it again.
Yep agree. The only thing Scott said was he didn't think there was a limit to the number of OTA USB tuners you could plug in. But there has to be a limit as to what the hardware can handle.
That being said, I'd need a minimum of 2 tuners in order for this system to work in my household.
Just to add that supposedly you can add the USB tuner to any 110 box, and it gets shared to the others as well ... and that there are 2 USB ports on the back of the 813 and 1 on the front would allow 3 USB devices without needing a USB Hub ... and if the usb tuner to any 110 sharing becomes reality ... then you could add a huge number of them..
Look at post number# 9 in the original thread about XIP dvr. Where someone asks if there is a limit on the number of ota tuners that can be added ? Scott replies:"As far as I know there is no limit to the ota tuners. And all should have full dvr functions on them. " Then read post #177 where Whatchel1 says : "813 will have three sat tuners the add on ( ext USB) module will be 2 tuners. So a total of 5 guys. " I think that is where the two tuner ota module came from.
Yes, that would be good. I'm to far out to get any OTA signals, so I am really going to consider switching over to D* when my contract is up later this year.
So color me the jerk then .. but lets get this back into context .. YMMV means Your Mileage May Vary ... You're getting 1080p, I can get 1080p from every other source, including off of Youtube yet not get HD to function for *me* in *my environment* ... as I stated.
so "near HD" means .. as I said again.. to leave room for those that *don't* get HD from their slings. I'm sure that if I had an i3, i5, or i7, with all the latest bells & whisltles, that maybe it would allow HD .. but with my current setup, three different systems pushing 10 megs of Sling Data across the network, I'm still unable to do HD with the Sling Adapter. One machine is an AMDx2 2400 3gigs ram, tried both ATI & NVidia cards, the 2nd is a laptop, core 2 duo 4 gigs ram (but ofcourse without dedicated video ram, and its an intel video set, so no wonder there, the last is an i3, with Nvidia graphics, and *it* won't drive 1080 hd using the sling, again getting 8 to 10 megs across the network .. the network itself handles pushing that 10 meg video stream while simultaneously pushing a 200 meg ISO file from pc to pc across the same, and watching no speed issue appear just that again.. the Sling doesn't do HD for me.
YMMV.. if it works for you.. great.. but my findings are valid, and its just that someone else may also only get "near HD" quality too..
so that said.. what exactly is your issue, and why are you bringing Usnet into a discussion revolving around Sling Adapters, Sling Extenders, and the Sling enabled 922?
It's a shame that Dish won't put an ATSC modulator on Coax OUT which would eliminate the need for a tuner box on the remote TV for HD content. I heard the original HD box from Dish, the 6000 maybe, had this. I assume they don't offer it now because due to fears that people will get around restrictions on recording.
I'm sure Dish would love to do that, but you are right. The reason that they won't is the content providers. They would never allow it.
In his original post in the stickythreads, Scott said that each module would have that ability
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/254573-questions-about-new-xip-receivers.html
They don't offer it and WILL NOT offer it. The protection schemes provided in association with the ATSC standard aren't going to satisfy the content providers. The other problem is that ATSC modulators are stupid expensive because they are relatively complex (requiring on-the-fly MPEG compression) and there are no economies of scale.
IPTV is the way of the future and coax isn't anyone's friend in that domain (and somebody always wants to diplex the hell out of it).
Sure coax will work in that domain. How do you think cable modems work? Granted, I've seen the likes of AT&T U-verse's implementation of coax (HomePNA) which is rather aweful. There's still MoCA though.
Cable modems only transfer data at cable modem speeds. Conventional CAT5e networks can work at ten times that speed both ways and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
If networking weren't so horribly restricted from a technician licensing standpoint, they probably wouldn't have messed with MoCA. I'm sure that FIOS would love to use those frequencies for something else (like more broadband).
