Team Summit update thread!

Ya - really. What's the big hoo-hah difference between PPV and VOD other than getting a start-time a little closer to "now"?

I'm gonna guess that it's really nothing more than using multiple feeds for the same movie with a smaller start time offset than we see now. Right now, there's FOUR movies that are each starting every 30 minutes.

If so, it's just another waste of bandwidth that could be used for HDTV, especially considering how many DVRs are hitting the field - even 30 minute starts won't really be needed much longer.
 
I see a lot of new things that I would not have suspected to see for a while, although many of these things we may never see, but it is nice to see that it is very possible and that there is a chance of many of these new technological things to come in the future. Perhaps Dish is wanting to find new technological things that cable does not have to compete better as well as reduce churn.
 
Criminals would probably end up hacking the phone or airwaves somehow to cause it to send a different GPS code than what the phone is transmitting, but if they use the distance factor to determine where someone is at then maybe that would be harder for it to be hacked, if possible, seeing how they may look for how weak or strong the signal may be, if that is how it works.
 
Maybe if they are marrying the technology from the 811 with the 522 they could price the 942 box under $500. I suspect from the comments on low price the 942 is going to be as in expensive as possible.
 
mike123abc said:
Maybe if they are marrying the technology from the 811 with the 522 they could price the 942 box under $500. I suspect from the comments on low price the 942 is going to be as in expensive as possible.
Yeah they already made their wad by charging us 921 owners $1000 for a box that's barely worth $200.
 
Scott If E* cant carry any sirius talk stations Why does (hot) air america have dish network listed as an affliate on their web site?
 
What receiver were those screen shots from - the 942? Are the new applications OpenTV based? Is that how the name based recording feature would look on my 508?

It all looks really cool but how much new hardware am I going to have to buy in order to take advantage of the new features?
 
Criminals wouldn't have to go to great lengths like that. All they would have to do is use a different cellphone every day, or maybe have several different ones that they alternate between during the day. If you turn it off they can't track you. I recall hearing that the 9/11 conspiritors did this.
 
While I don't want to be negative, I wonder how many sets of photos I have seen from Dish meetings. They have some cardboard signs and some non-working hardware and we get all excited. A couple of years later the products are still vaporware or are available (with numerous bugs and work arounds). My 811 is full of problems and the 921 is only suitable for technical people with multiple systems who can work around its problems.

I applaud Dish for pushing technology and offering more products, but I think it would be nice if they would make their existing ones work. I spent 33 years in the a leading technical company and I know that it's easy to fall into the rut that Dish is in. But the solution it to find the problems and fix them.....not to give the engineers (including me) more money for new toys. Which would you rather work on if were at Dish?

Al
 
Scott Greczkowski said:
Ok folks here are some photos from Team Summit. You will see a few interesting things. :)

For those who have no idea what your looking at I do plan on explaining things better when I can.

For those of you who have technical questions about new products I will be starting a special thread, I will take your questions to the Dish folks tommorow for them to answer. :)

Greg,

Sorry I missed you. I did not know for sure if I was getting in the Team Summit or not until the last second. Anyway, if you want use any or all of the pics I took from the Team Summit go right ahead. They are located:

http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum/album_cat.php?cat_id=1

The first 2 days were indeed exciting.
:yes
 
Rich,

I am still here, and editings some video I shot today from the show, and with Charlie Ergen. :) I am in room 7340. If you are still here and want to get together and say hi, PM me for my cell number.

I got a Sirius unit. Can't wait to get home to get it plugged in. :)
 
juan said:
Scott If E* cant carry any sirius talk stations Why does (hot) air america have dish network listed as an affliate on their web site?

Juan, the current COO of Air America, Mr. Goodfriend, is a former E* deal-maker. There's a good chance he's getting his old buddys at Dish to pull a favor for him and put AAR up on Dish. Still no official word yet, so don't freak out--it MIGHT still not happen.
 
juan said:
Scott If E* cant carry any sirius talk stations Why does (hot) air america have dish network listed as an affliate on their web site?


I'm not Scott, but I think I can answer your question. DISH Network has partnered with Sirius to carry the Plug-N-Play Sirius/DISH branded radios. Since DISH Network's retail distribution is now selling Sirius radios, Air America should be listing DISH as an affiliate. This has nothing to do with the 6000 channel range on DISH Network.

SimpleSimon said:
Ya - really. What's the big hoo-hah difference between PPV and VOD other than getting a start-time a little closer to "now"?

I'm gonna guess that it's really nothing more than using multiple feeds for the same movie with a smaller start time offset than we see now. Right now, there's FOUR movies that are each starting every 30 minutes.

If so, it's just another waste of bandwidth that could be used for HDTV, especially considering how many DVRs are hitting the field - even 30 minute starts won't really be needed much longer.
When they announced the VOD plans in the assembly, they stated that DISH has been holding back a portion of the hard drive for VOD and other services. Your 100 hour available recording space is only a portion of the DVR's available space. You will be able to simply pull up a list of available pre-recorded shows and decide whether or not you want to watch them. I also understood that some of the VOD features would be like TiVo's current setup, where it just randomly records stuff while you're not using the receiver based on your likes, and then you can watch it at your leisure.

The VOD service will reside on your DVR's hard drive.


Justin
 
Saturday Team Summit Update (Plus pics and answers to your questions!)

Greetings all once again from deep in the heart of Texas from Team Summit! Today looked like it would be a dull day, but actually we had a good time.

The morning started out with a assembly with talk about the SHVIA act as well as a speach by the president of the SBCA. We then had an interesting lecture by Don Tapscott who gave a good motovational speech which I hoped the big wigs at dish were listening to. It focused on how companies need to be open and honest with their customers, emplyees and shareholders in order to succeed. Dish REALLY would be a better company if they were open and honest about things.

After Don Tapscott was done we were on for our main event which was a HDTV panel hosted by Leo Laporte of Tech TV fame. As you know last night was leos last show on TechTV, this to me is upsetting, I like Leo and he does great work. Leo was joined by execs from HDNet, TNT-HD, DiscoveryHD and ESPN-HD. The discussion was actually disapointing as it was real short. Nothing new was learned at all from this panel.

After the show I got to meet with Leo Laporte and talk with him a bit. Leo was disapointed that last night's "Call for help" was the last. He really would like to work more for G4TV but nothing has been offered to him.

Leo asked me to tell SatelliteGuys members that you can keep track of him at his website at http://www.leoville.com also don't be surprised if you see the mayor of Leoville stop by to SatelliteGuys sometime to say hi. :)

After talking with Leo I walked out of the room and ran into Charlie Ergen, we got to chat a bit. I challenged Charlie to a Karaoke duel tonight (which is part of the closing show) and Charlie told me there was not enough alcohol in Texas to make him get on stage and sing. I then told Charlie that perhaps we could play some poker tonight in the Dish Network Casino which will be opening after Jay Leno performs, he said we might be able to do that. (That would be cool) :)

After that we went and grabbed our cameras and went back to the Tech Expo to get you some of the photos you have requested, this time we also took along a video camera. Look for some video next week from Team Summit. :)

On the floor I was lucky enough to catch the ladies from BingoTV and Leslie Harper. As I mentioned the other night Leslie is NOT relates to BingoTV's Ashley. I learned my lesson on this after Leslie and Ashley both ripped me a new one because I posted that they looked like Leslie and Ashley were related and I said maybe Leslie was Ashleys mom. :) WELL AGAIN ITS NOT TRUE THEY ARE NOT RELATED.

And thats it for here for now. Tonight is the closing ceremony and Jay Leno pays us a visit. Should be a fun night.

Earlier I collected your questions and today I asked your questions to the Dish Tech Guys. I will be posting the answers to these questions later on, so keep checking back.

Again thanks for visiting SatelliteGuys.US!
 

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Mainstreet said:
... When they announced the VOD plans in the assembly, they stated that DISH has been holding back a portion of the hard drive for VOD and other services. Your 100 hour available recording space is only a portion of the DVR's available space. You will be able to simply pull up a list of available pre-recorded shows and decide whether or not you want to watch them. I also understood that some of the VOD features would be like TiVo's current setup, where it just randomly records stuff while you're not using the receiver based on your likes, and then you can watch it at your leisure.

The VOD service will reside on your DVR's hard drive.

Justin
Thanks for the reply, but I gotta say that that sucks. I'd much rather be able to use MY HDD the way "I" want. And before you go there, I have a 501 and a 921 - they ARE my HDDs.
 
SimpleSimon said:
Thanks for the reply, but I gotta say that that sucks. I'd much rather be able to use MY HDD the way "I" want. And before you go there, I have a 501 and a 921 - they ARE my HDDs.

True, the real estate is, but the content isn't. DISH has specifically stated all along that part of it is to be reserved for their use. It's the same as you owning the box, but the software can be modified, and updated. If you don't want them using their reserved space, you still have the option to not use the receiver.
 

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