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If signal is strong then attic location may work and keep antenna in good shape longer.

Also insure with wire/coat hangers are sanded where they touch for conductivity.
Don't allow the cross wires to touch that feed the bottom and top bows.
Good luck and please post a picture and results when done.

Oh! I didn't know what the chicken wire was for.. :eek:

Well, I think all the stations I want to get are north of me. So it may help.

But I will take your advice and try it without first. That will just make it easier on me..

Thank you! :)
 
IT'S ALIVE!!! IT'S ALIVE!!! IT'S ALIVE!!!

Well, almost..

As noted in my previous post, I've been tweaking all night and all morning on Pepsi and Monster power drinks. :p

I went poking around in boxes, in the garage, in the shed, under the car, everywhere. Looking for stuff to make the BIG primestar work once again.
(Not that I remember it ever even being up before anyway :rolleyes: )

While I could NOT find any parts that would allow me to connect the dish to the motor, I DID find a donor part to replace the missing arm on the dish!

When I was in the shed aka the 60's travel trailer, I found an old folding camp chair that was all icky and chewed up by critters. Time for the trash. But, I noticed the tubes it was made of. Lots of little aluminum tubes that are like an accordion or something so the thing opens out into a chair or collapses into a small bundle for storage.

So I dragged it out to the deck and hosed it down. Then I went and got the one arm that I do have and compared them. Not only was it the same size around, one of the back legs of the chair was the exact right length for what I needed!

OMG!! So, being all full of caffeine, I proceeded to take the little camp chair AKA "the donor" apart and got the prize, the chair leg that would soon become a satellite dish arm. Yes, I was about to Frankenstein it into a new creature! :D

Muhahahahahahahaha!!!

So I took a chance. I figured it couldn't hurt. There are two of them in the chair, if I ruined one I would still have one left over that I could send over to dad for a more professional attempt at what I was about to try.

So I stuck the tube into a hole on the BBQ bit and began to bend it. Very slowly, very carefully. Bend a tiny bit, stop, check it against the good one, bend a little more, etc, repeat, etc...

After a lot of sweating and a little cursing, I finally ended up with a mangled up looking tube that LOOKED like it might just work after all! :D

So I fitted all the parts together to see and sure enough, it looked like it might work after all! I then got out my little cordless drill dad gave me and drilled some holes in the dish and through the tube then put some screws in to keep it from falling apart. UH OH!! It looks like it might just work!!

Well... Looks aren't everything, as they say. Will it work? I don't know. I can't really try it just yet, I don't have any way to put the monster beast up. But it looks OK. So I'll have to say, this is a BIG step towards getting the thing working. I was really concerned about that missing part. I knew without that there was no hope. Now that has been resolved and I can focus on the next part, finding a strong, light way to attach the dish to the motor.

That's going to have to involve help from dad. That's beyond my ability or skill level. Not to mention, I only have a few very basic little tools here for doing simple household repairs. Dad has all the tools in this universe and the other 10 universes. When dad dies we are going to bury him in a tool box. Really. It would make him very happy.

So anyway. Here's a few pictures of my latest Frankendish project.

Sheesh, I'm scaring myself with this stuff. I think I need to counter all this machinery stuff with a shopping spree. :eek: Just to reclaim my softer side ya know. ;)
 

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If signal is strong then attic location may work and keep antenna in good shape longer.

Also insure with wire/coat hangers are sanded where they touch for conductivity.
Don't allow the cross wires to touch that feed the bottom and top bows.
Good luck and please post a picture and results when done.


My roof is made of solid sheet metal. It's ugly as sin but it sure keeps the heat down in the summer.

The antenna MUST be mounted outdoors.

Thank you! :)
 
Good fabbin, Dee. That dish should work like new! If I come out that way next week can you rebuild my transmission? LOL
 
Frankendish project:

Iceberg the moderator is always joking about using wood blocks, 'n hose clamps, and gets lots of things done.
The most entertaining reading on this forum, is seeing the creativity of the members!

Your Primestar arm is right up there with some of the best I've seen!
Damn! We're gonna have to make you our poster girl for DIY projects! - :eek:

So now, we don't want to hear you mumble, "I can't". There are projects a-waitin'!
- LNB on Primestar - your 'adaptation' above should work.
- motor attachment to the Primestar - read my last post above.
- ground mount the motor, and get it aligned - tedious, but you can sit down and succeed!
- build out-door TV antenna. Light, easy to bend parts, and you're good with drill 'n screws.
- remember that pretty BUD you found on your vacation last month...? ... :rolleyes: ... :eek:
 
I took a digital scale and put the entire dish including an lnb on it and it weighs out to 18.3 pounds or 8.3kg for those that are of the metric mindset.

Now of course there is no other stuff on the dish yet. There's no mounting stuff on the back at all. I would guess that another 5 to 10lbs will end up being added to it by the time it's all said and done. Wouldn't ya think? So I'm guessing anywhere between 25 to 30lbs total for the whole dish and it's mountings in the end.

Should that motor be able to move that? :confused:


Oh and just for fun, I put an lnb on it and took my birdog meter out and was able to find the galaxy satellite at 97, really fast and really easy, just holding the dish on the ground and aiming it by hand, no poles at all AND trying to go through heavy trees. The yard is flooded so I can't go out there for a few days yet.

I am very, very certain that if I went out and put the thing on a pole out away from the trees I would be able to find any satellite I wanted to. :D

So far this is starting to look pretty good. :D :D :D
 
My caffeine buzz is letting me down. Almost time for a nap. :(

Two weeks. Almost two weeks that White Springs has gone bye bye.

When the rain stops I'm going out and moving that dish to 97.
At least I can get I Love Lucy there.

IF and when White Springs comes back I'll come up with a new plan.
Maybe I'll have a motor dish up by then.

nap nap.. :)
 
Really awesome, Dee!

I am very impressed, and I am not saying this because you are a gal and doing well, I say so because you are doing GREAT! You not only have a storehouse of salvaged parts, but you are smart and know exactly what to do with them. I don't see you asking very many questions, so you either know what you are doing right off or you are reading a great deal and learning as you go, or both.

My hat is off to you Dee! Salute!

:)

RADAR
 
back to your project:

Instead of focusing on just one way to fit the motor on the back of your 1m Primestar...
... here is another of the many ways that have been shown.
I prefer the use of an aluminum plate to the wood one, but the idea is the same. ;)

That part he used came off the back of some other little light weight dish...
.... and you've got a warehouse of dishes... so.... :rolleyes:

edit:
I'm sure you will still find a way to incorporate that fine-tune elevation bolt, as shown in your earlier picture.
That's well worth having - for anyone who wants to decrease the frustration level! ;)
Here's another execution of that idea to give encouragement:

Lak7 shows Bob Jones University dish & elevation adjuster rod:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/c-band-...tures-dish-hunting-2008-a-14.html#post1495561
 
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IT'S ALIVE!!! IT'S ALIVE!!! IT'S ALIVE!!!

Well, almost..

As noted in my previous post, I've been tweaking all night and all morning on Pepsi and Monster power drinks. :p

I went poking around in boxes, in the garage, in the shed, under the car, everywhere. Looking for stuff to make the BIG primestar work once again.
(Not that I remember it ever even being up before anyway :rolleyes: )

While I could NOT find any parts that would allow me to connect the dish to the motor, I DID find a donor part to replace the missing arm on the dish!

When I was in the shed aka the 60's travel trailer, I found an old folding camp chair that was all icky and chewed up by critters. Time for the trash. But, I noticed the tubes it was made of. Lots of little aluminum tubes that are like an accordion or something so the thing opens out into a chair or collapses into a small bundle for storage.

So I dragged it out to the deck and hosed it down. Then I went and got the one arm that I do have and compared them. Not only was it the same size around, one of the back legs of the chair was the exact right length for what I needed!

OMG!! So, being all full of caffeine, I proceeded to take the little camp chair AKA "the donor" apart and got the prize, the chair leg that would soon become a satellite dish arm. Yes, I was about to Frankenstein it into a new creature! :D

Muhahahahahahahaha!!!

So I took a chance. I figured it couldn't hurt. There are two of them in the chair, if I ruined one I would still have one left over that I could send over to dad for a more professional attempt at what I was about to try.

So I stuck the tube into a hole on the BBQ bit and began to bend it. Very slowly, very carefully. Bend a tiny bit, stop, check it against the good one, bend a little more, etc, repeat, etc...

After a lot of sweating and a little cursing, I finally ended up with a mangled up looking tube that LOOKED like it might just work after all! :D

So I fitted all the parts together to see and sure enough, it looked like it might work after all! I then got out my little cordless drill dad gave me and drilled some holes in the dish and through the tube then put some screws in to keep it from falling apart. UH OH!! It looks like it might just work!!

Well... Looks aren't everything, as they say. Will it work? I don't know. I can't really try it just yet, I don't have any way to put the monster beast up. But it looks OK. So I'll have to say, this is a BIG step towards getting the thing working. I was really concerned about that missing part. I knew without that there was no hope. Now that has been resolved and I can focus on the next part, finding a strong, light way to attach the dish to the motor.

That's going to have to involve help from dad. That's beyond my ability or skill level. Not to mention, I only have a few very basic little tools here for doing simple household repairs. Dad has all the tools in this universe and the other 10 universes. When dad dies we are going to bury him in a tool box. Really. It would make him very happy.

So anyway. Here's a few pictures of my latest Frankendish project.

Sheesh, I'm scaring myself with this stuff. I think I need to counter all this machinery stuff with a shopping spree. :eek: Just to reclaim my softer side ya know. ;)

I am impressed! Very good job!
 
My caffeine buzz is letting me down. Almost time for a nap. :(

Two weeks. Almost two weeks that White Springs has gone bye bye.

When the rain stops I'm going out and moving that dish to 97.
At least I can get I Love Lucy there.

IF and when White Springs comes back I'll come up with a new plan.
Maybe I'll have a motor dish up by then.

nap nap.. :)

What station on 97 airs "I Love Lucy"?
 
I'm still caffeined out. And my housemate went on a little date with a new guy so I'm gonna sit up and wait until she gets back so I can get all the dirt and details. :p Oh baby, I can't wait! He's not bad looking either. I hope it works out nice for her, she really needs to get out and start dating again.:)

So anyway. White Springs. Yeah, I miss ya. But you know, I can't sit here waiting forever my dears. That poor dish was out there all lonely, staring blankly into the sky, endlessly searching for your signal. But it was not to be.

I ran out in the mud with a wrench and my birdog and my poor little dish has found a new friend in the sky, Galaxy 19.

Yes, I'll be watching I Love Lucy. And yes, I do love Lucy. :D

Sorry White Springs. I tried to be patient. Really. I tried.


Re: AcWxRadar,

Well, do remember, I spent MONTHS trying to get the first few satellites found and tuned in. I started out cold and blind, I had not a clue in the world what I was doing. I fumbled through this stuff for what seemed like 16 forevers.
I asked a LOT of questions.

And I read a LOT! :book: :book: :book: :book: :book: :book: :book:

Lots and lots and lots and lots. I make frequent use of the search feature here, I follow lots of links you very helpful men post and I google lots of stuff online too.

I have plenty of free time.

Also, I don't know if you caught it but I mentioned quite a few months ago that my dad is a licensed mechanical engineer (was at Dupont), has a machine shop in his garage and was a TV & radio repairman in the 50's and 60's and piddles with pretty much anything. There's not much he can't fix. Well, he wanted a son but didn't get one. When I was little I used to watch him work on things and would play with some of his electronic test stuff. He had a tube tester, I remember that. And a few other things I'm not sure of. He had some sort of little green screen that would make all sorts of cool squiggles on it, I was fascinated by that. I forget what it was called though. He still has all that stuff, I saw it in my old bedroom which he took over and turned into a junk room. :mad:

He taught me how to solder things, that's not hard to do but I don't really have much use for that skill. He would have me help him fix things though when I was little and he let me solder inside TV's and radios. I had no clue what I was doing, I just did what he told me to do.

I came to find out over the years that I take after him in a few ways, like I learn how to do things pretty fast. He showed me how to put air conditioner coolant in, that's simple. He showed me how to change disc brakes, that's simple too, IF you're strong enough to do it. He showed me how to change the oil and filter, a task I DESPISE. And how to drain the radiator and put anti-freeze in it come winter time. Simple to do but dirty work that I do not like doing. But, I do know how and at least I don't have to pay someone to do it for me now. :)

My friend had her alternator go out. They charged her almost $800 to replace it.
It went out again a few years later. My dad fixed it for her the second time. The cost for parts was only $130. She got ripped off the first time.

I know a guy that got ripped off for over $3,000 on the air conditioner in his truck. OMG... That's just insane.

So really, the bottom line is, I enjoy saving money. I hate giving money away when I don't have to. And that is what drives me to be a penny pincher and drives me to read and learn and watch as much as I can so I can be more independent and more self sufficient and less dependent upon others.

And to be honest, to be less of a pain in the rear end to others.

Here's a little something I saw some years back and it really struck me deeply.

Watch this video clip on Youtube, from about 1:42 until about 4:42..
(I don't know how to make it play only the section of the clip I mention so you'll have to skip ahead a little to the spot manually.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMvaaX1NhDE"]YouTube - 13th Warrior p3.avi[/ame]

Q: "How did you learn our language???!!" A: "I listened."

That made sooooo much sense to me. What an awesome concept! I live by it.

I'm still reading and looking and listening to you guys. There is a goldmine of knowledge in this forum and believe me, I'm looking it all over. I'm taking it all in and my poor little brain is storing it all and mulling it all over. Pictures are starting to form in my mind, of things I can do, things I can make, things I can modify. Most of it, I'll need help with because my tools are very limited here.

But really, the more I do this, the easier it gets. And I'm afraid to say this, but, I want more. :cool: Why not? I've got most of the junk around here to do it. Why not do it then? It's mostly free, I've spent very little money on anything yet and for the serious hard labour I'm pretty confident I can trade out some cold beers (yuk!) for some manual labor. Mr Nice Neighbor lives by the moto, "Will work for beer." I do not approve of alcohol but if I can trade it to him for some work, well, so be it. And I've never seen him drunk so I suppose there's no harm in it. I hope.

Ok, I need to go forage in the wilderness AKA the kitchen for snacks.
I'm jealous of my friend for her going on a date and I need to have some junk food since I can't go out myself. I think some ice cream will do. I just hope I have some. I'm tired of Pepsi, I drank half a case of Pepsi Zero today. Got a good buzz from it, thank goodness it's zero calories!
 
"Speaking of dad. He wants to get a satellite tuner that can do the HDTV that PBS is in. He checked his tv set and he says it has two hmdi connectors on it.
So he would need a satellite tuner that hooks into hmdi. And that will run a motor dish. Any recommendations are more than welcomed! Oh and he doesn't know or care about the blind scan thing or cband."

Dee_Ann PM me i have what he may be looking for that i would sell for cheap
 
That's excellent! Where did you learn our language... "I listened".

My Great Grandmother came to the US from old Germany before WWI. She did not know how to speak or write English when she came, but she "taught herself" by reading the newspapers and by "listening" to others and to the radio. She actually became very excellent at writing poetry in English.

I also remember the old tube testers. We did not have one, but on occasion my Dad would take me up to the drugstore with a box of tubes to check. The Walgreens store had a tube tester set up in the corner like we see a phtocopy machine or an ATM today.

The instrument that you couldn't think of the name for, with the "squiggly lines" is an oscilloscope. I have one myself, a Hatachi 100 MHz dual trace O-scope. Great fun if you hook both channels to your left and right speakers and select X-Y display. Fascinating psychodelic display for a party! WooHoo!

RADAR
 
very cool pics and a heckuva nice fabrication job :)

Iceberg the moderator is always joking about using wood blocks, 'n hose clamps, and gets lots of things done.
yeppers :)

The most entertaining reading on this forum, is seeing the creativity of the members!
so true. Gives some of us extra ideas :D
 
That's excellent! Where did you learn our language... "I listened".

My Great Grandmother came to the US from old Germany before WWI. She did not know how to speak or write English when she came, but she "taught herself" by reading the newspapers and by "listening" to others and to the radio. She actually became very excellent at writing poetry in English.

I also remember the old tube testers. We did not have one, but on occasion my Dad would take me up to the drugstore with a box of tubes to check. The Walgreens store had a tube tester set up in the corner like we see a phtocopy machine or an ATM today.

The instrument that you couldn't think of the name for, with the "squiggly lines" is an oscilloscope. I have one myself, a Hatachi 100 MHz dual trace O-scope. Great fun if you hook both channels to your left and right speakers and select X-Y display. Fascinating psychodelic display for a party! WooHoo!

RADAR

I remember when I was little, my dad's tube tester broke and he needed to fix our set, it was before the moon shot. He took all the tubes out of the set and we went to Radio Shack. He was FURIOUS because they had taken their tube testing machine out of the store. As I recall, it looked something like a video arcade machine in the way it was built. I think we had to go to Walgreens from there, it was in the same outdoor strip mall so it wasn't as big a deal as dad made it out to be.

Oh yeah, and he had a BIG blue wooden case, like a giant toolbox sort of, that he carried spare tubes in and various tools when he went on service calls.
All that stuff had such an odd, distinct smell.

OH! I just remembered something else! My dad showed me how to make a radio with a toilet paper roll and some copper wire, and a few other parts I think.
It ran on AIR! No electricity at all! No batteries, no cords, nothing! He said it got it's electricity from the air. He ran a long wire out in the yard for it.

It was not at all even a little bit practical but it was neat to know that something like that could even be done. He said prisoners in war camps would make them to listen to radio that the enemy didn't want them to hear!

Dad tried to teach me a lot of stuff. Most of it didn't stick. But it was all pretty interesting. It wasn't what I wanted to do with my life or as a hobby so I didn't really apply myself to any of it.

But I guess like it or not, I ended up with some of dad's genes. Between that and being so hard headed, I suppose I inherited enough to get by on.

Ok, I'm dead tired. I've been up for about 36 hours now and I have to get some sleep, now.

Nite nite all and thanks for all your kind words! :)
 
Fizbi, Where did you find the KTV2 schedule? I looked all over for one. Unless something has changed their programs always start at weird times 10 or 20 after the hour etc...I'll have to check and see if the schedule looks to be correct. Thanks Blind
 
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