SuperDISH Information

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Guys,

Charlottesville and Richmond, VA markets have gone to 129 NOT TOO LONG AGO. They're not going to take those cities to 110 anytime soon. You'll need Dish 1000 for 129 or a separate Dish 500 for 129 if you need to complement a SuperDISH.

For Norfolk, VA, they didn't change from SuperDISH 105 to 129 so they're going to Dish 500 instead of Dish 1000. That's all. They didn't forget Richmond or Charlottesville, it's just that they're Dish 1000 and will stay that way at least for now.

 

[ToddG]

Richmond and Chralottesville may be on 129 now but they are also still on 105. I have the super dish and am getting Charlottesville on 105. I am assuming before dish can turn the locals off on 105, they would have to contact me to install the new dish I would require to get 129 since I am subscribed to the locals.

Todd

 

[ToddG]

Also, won't dish have to replace out all the existing customers super dishes in Charlottesville and Richmond to dish 1000. I would think it would be beneficial to dish to put us on 110 to keep from having to change out all the super dishes that are pointed at 105 now.

Todd

 

[Frank Jr.]

My My, how things change but wind up staying the same. I kept my old Dish500 sticking it in my storage room in my garage after replacing it with my 105 superdish. Now this begs a question. Even though the 105 lnb would not be used there would be no need to replace the superdish. Heck I could even re-aim the thing and pull in a slightly better signal for 119&110. I think I could anyway. What would Dish use the 105 satellite for after all or most of the locals have been removed? HD content ? Another thought, would Dish at some point require me to take down my superdish? As long as the superdish didn't fail for some reason I would not think so. Any ideas Guys.

 

[jlhugh]

My DMA is not on there either. I do know that my locals are mirrored onto 129 right now. So I guess E* owes me a dish 1000 since they will not be on 110 and wont be on 121 much longer.

 

[Stargazer]

Don't forget Charleston/Huntington WV. They put the locals on 129 and it is a Dish1000 market but they still have the locals at 105 as well. If. they do not keep them on 105 then there are going to have to be a LOT of swapouts in a short amount of time.

Are they going to shut off the signals on 105 or are they going to keep the markets on 105 that went to 129 as a backup for those that cannot pickup 129 due to the low look angle or to prevent dish swapouts? Or do they plan on putting the locals on 110 eventually for those markets that are on 129 and use 129 for HD locals in the future?

 

[Seadoo]

Keep Superdish Or Not

Just talked with an installer and he said that the gain on the 1000 was much worse than Superdish or 500. Even though it is messier, he said that I should keep my superdish and dish 500 rather than replace them with a 1000.

I assume that it is not possible to reaim the superdish 105 to hit 110,119,129.

 

[Frank Jr.]

Just talked with an installer and he said that the gain on the 1000 was much worse than Superdish or 500. Even though it is messier, he said that I should keep my superdish and dish 500 rather than replace them with a 1000.

I assume that it is not possible to reaim the superdish 105 to hit 110,119,129.

even though the superdish has issues I think you would be better off keeping it

 

[CJPC]

Just talked with an installer and he said that the gain on the 1000 was much worse than Superdish or 500. Even though it is messier, he said that I should keep my superdish and dish 500 rather than replace them with a 1000.

I assume that it is not possible to reaim the superdish 105 to hit 110,119,129.

Not exactically (as 105 is a FSS sat, w/ a different LNB than one used for the 129 sat)

However! goaliebob99 managed to get 129 on both (105 and 121) superdishes

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=36979&highlight=mad+scientist

He added an extra LNB etc.., and it works! (its 13 pages, but a good read)

 

[Stargazer]

I wonder if anybody will ever create an adaptor to make the SuperDish pickup 110, 119, and 129. This would be good for those that have issues picking up the signals and wants to make them come in stronger. One might even be able to make it pick up 101 in addition to that for DirecTv.

 

[hokiecb]

Not exactically (as 105 is a FSS sat, w/ a different LNB than one used for the 129 sat)

However! goaliebob99 managed to get 129 on both (105 and 121) superdishes

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=36979&highlight=mad+scientist

He added an extra LNB etc.., and it works! (its 13 pages, but a good read)

I got it on the 105... its pretty simple. for pic/details on adding 129 to 105SD look at post #40 on the mad sci thread.

 

[Van]

Oh sweet jesus this is going to make my job so much easier now.

 

[slimoli]

With this new satellite hosting all international channels, can we now have a single dish for all HD,premium movies and one a-la-carte international? Will Dish 1000 do it? Thanks.

 

[BoisePaul]

For all of the "mad scientist" methods, the one thing I don't see mentioned is somebody replacing the 119 Dual with a Twin (attached using the "110" side in the 119 position) on a 105 SuperDISH. The seperation and angles should be correct (or really close) to see 119 and 129, so the wire ties, lollipop sticks and other assorted shouldn't be necessary.

 

[Van]

For all of the "mad scientist" methods, the one thing I don't see mentioned is somebody replacing the 119 Dual with a Twin (attached using the "110" side in the 119 position) on a 105 SuperDISH. The seperation and angles should be correct (or really close) to see 119 and 129, so the wire ties, lollipop sticks and other assorted shouldn't be necessary.

Wont work on a superdish without doing some modifications on the brackets and even then it may not work as the spacing of the 110 to the 119 on the super dishes is more than what you find on a 500 dish.

 

[Stargazer]

The support arm for the lnbf's causes the lnbf's to be farther away from the reflector than they are with a Dish 300/500 which causes the lnbf's to have to be farther apart. This is why they did not use the DP twin lnbf on a SuperDish. The longer the support arm is the more spacing needed for the lnbf's that are needed.

 

[ehren]

I will post my signal strength for Madison when that happens.

 

[Pepper]

I notice they didn't stick to the original schedule. Mobile, AL scheduled for May 5 happened yesterday? Not that I'm complaining.

 

[dlsnyder]

So what does this mean for the future? Is Dish completely scrapping its plans for 121 and 105? They spent an awful lot of money on long term leases for 105, not to mention all the money they spent on their satellite at 121. What will they do with all that FSS capacity now?

 

[goaliebob99]

Not exactically (as 105 is a FSS sat, w/ a different LNB than one used for the 129 sat)

However! goaliebob99 managed to get 129 on both (105 and 121) superdishes

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=36979&highlight=mad+scientist

He added an extra LNB etc.., and it works! (its 13 pages, but a good read)

From my experiance working with them the gain was actually better on a superdish than a dish 1000 as the Super Dish had more surface area for the lower powered dbs signal to bounce off of. I noticed a 10 percent drop from a Super dish to a dish 1000 when I replaced my Super dish. Also both of the dish's were peaked out!