Starz Torchwood- A Miracle Day

[MikeD-C05]

LOVED the ending! It made the whole waiting thing,worth it . Very action packed finale. Now on to next season. Looks like the "families" will be involved if they do come back and Jack is no longer alone on the imortal crew. IF they decide to renew the series, I might have to sub to Starz next summer to see it.

 

[long_time_DNC]

I agree, the ending made the series worth watching! I hope they decide to renew it, as I'd sure like to see what "Plan B" is all about and how Jack deals with immoral competition...

 

[TNGTony]

I don't know what you guys were watching, but as the show ended I stated at the TV with a gaping mouth and a stunned look on my face unable for formulate appropriate expletives to satisfy my utter shock at just how awful the whole ending of this story was. The entire scenes on either side of the "blessing" was so poorly conceived and written that I must have rolled my eyes so much I can't look down now! I love sci-fi and I love Dr. Who so I love a certain level of cheese, but this episode specifically blew chunks. The resolution was terrible and I can't believe I spent months wondering how it would end. I give up on this series. I really tried to like it. Perhaps if the series is renewed I will soften on this stand, but I can't find anything I liked about the end of this season.

 

[long_time_DNC]

Given the premise, how they played it out (sometimes not well) and the questions left unanswered (like WHAT IS IN THE CAVERN?), I liked the ending. They gave us a twist (transfused Rex) and closure and the possibility of continuation. Sure, it wasn't the best scifi series I've ever seen, but it was (for the most part) far better than 90% of what airs on SyFy lately. I didn't feel like I wasted an hour of my life and enjoyed the twists and turns. So, yes, there are plenty of unanswered questions (maybe we'll see them answered if it gets another season) and not every plot element was handled well, but I enjoyed the ending...

 

[KAB]

I guess one out of ten will have to do. The finale was pure Torchwood. It ALMOST made up for the sins of the previous nine. I don't know about the rest of you, but I saw the "Rex Thing" a mile away. No surprise there.

 

[KAB]

Ah, and did anybody else catch how they borrowed from David Tennant's Doctor Who season finales???

 

[TNGTony]

I thought about last night's show a little and tried to figure out why I hated the ending as much as I did. I really enjoy Dr. Who and some of the resolutions to their shows are just as ridiculous. So why do I not have the same sort of reaction to The Doctor as I do to Torchwood? I think I may have figured it out. It's the tone of the show.

With Dr. Who no matter how grave or dire the situation, there is levity. You get the feeling that things are never "really" serious. There is never a sense of ominous doom or gloom. Even in the darkest episodes, there is a ray of light. This is not the case of Torchwood Miracle Day specifically. The characters are self-important. There is no real interaction between the character that give any sense of levity. In one of the character's cases the story turns bitterly dark and nearly hopeless! There is a sense of despair that we as viewers as made to feel. The whole series is more serious to us as a viewer so we (or at least I) subconsciously expect a more serious resolution.

After taking a step back, I see how some one may actually like "Miracle Day." I am not one of them. I gave it enough rope for it to hang itself! It did.

BTW another set of series I loved with a super-high cheese factor was "Stargate SG1" and "Stargete Atlantis". I Loathed "Stargate Universe" for the exact same reason!

 

[theoak]

Ah, and did anybody else catch how they borrowed from David Tennant's Doctor Who season finales???

In what way?

(I obviously missed it.)

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[theoak]

I have mixed feelings about the ending.

Jack's immortality was a gift. It had nothing to do with his blood.

I had feeling something was up with Rex as he was experiencing the same pains that Jack seemed to be. This made sense I thought.

I guess though that is how the writers twisted everything. It was Jack's immortal blood that caused the Blessing to give everyone immortality. It was his mortal blood that reset things back. During the reset Rex got caught with Jack's reset.

I am still not sold on the premise though as Jack's immortality has nothing to do with his blood.

The fact that I did not like Rex's character probably does not help.

It will be interesting to see where this goes.

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[KAB]

In what way?

(I obviously missed it.)

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At the end of Seasons two and three finales, they both ended with The Doctor saying one word, three or four times. Flash forward to what happens IMMEDIATELY after Rex comes back to life.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Well they could fix REX and drain him of all blood and giving him a transfusion of normal blood at the same time. Then all of Jack's blood would be out of his system. I don't think he wants to be like Jack and an immortal being.

 

[mike123abc]

I have mixed feelings about the ending.

Jack's immortality was a gift. It had nothing to do with his blood.

I think they just altered the Dr. Who angle again. Jack was (originall) changed to be a fixed point in time or something like that, nothing to do with any of his physiology. But, then we later learn he ends up being a big head in a jar that eventually dies after keeping all those people alive for so long (how do you do that if you are fixed)... Again a conflict with the fixed constant in time theory. So, I think they just change the reason to be whatever they need it to be. I this case now it is something that happened to him and is now part of his blood.

 

[long_time_DNC]

But he said, several times, that it had nothing to do with his blood...this would make more sense to me (Jack coming back to life innumerable times) if it weren't related to his blood. The Blessing sucked an enormous quantity of blood out of him...enough to kill any mortal man...and since Rex had Jack's blood in him in Argentina, the blessing is reversed and *poof* Jack comes back. If it's not blood-related immortality, then Rex ought to be dead. So, that's a big inconsistency. Also (and I'm no M.D.), but if Rex's and Jack's blood aren't the same blood-type, doesn't Rex die anyway?

Other than those issues, still, I enjoyed the finale'...

 

[dangue]

Also (and I'm no M.D.), but if Rex's and Jack's blood aren't the same blood-type, doesn't Rex die anyway?

Just my two cents:

While the miracle was still in effect, he couldn't die. And presumably, after the miracle was over he had gained that immortality so incompatible blood wouldn't be an issue any longer?

As for the series as a whole... This, like children of the Earth before it, didn't feel like Torchwood. The first two seasons were just so completely different (aside from the lack of serialization) that it's hard for me to compare seasons one and two to seasons three and four. The tone and texture is just so much darker and the team camaraderie (or more specifically the lack thereof) is such that it's not as enjoyable in my opinion.

The biggest continuity gripe I have is that this all transpires over months of time. There is no way something this aberrant could occur and remain unresolved for such a long time without the doctor popping up for a quick peak. It might have even been a stroke of genius to have a former Doctor pop in for at least a cameo. Ok, ok that's not so much a continuity problem that's internal to the show as a good excuse for some Doctor Who goodness. But I do find it hard to believe that Miracle months could happen without getting the Doctor's attention.

My biggest plot gripe is the big question mark that is the families and their stated motivation for creating the miracle. It really didn't make sense. I can see one crazy person thinking that having total control over who lives and dies trying to pull something like that off, but a supposedly sophisticated and widespread organization striving towards that? Seems very implausible (and yes, I realize the sci fi elements are all even more so, but I think that good sci fi gets around the fantastical impossibilities by having characters driven by clear, identifiable and realistic "human" traits).

Edit: just realized that I have an even bigger two-part plot problem:

They never explained why the miracle made Jack mortal to begin with. If his immortal blood was just a template that was applied tot he whole world, why would he lose his immortality? Or at least, why wouldn't he just be undying like everyone else? And two, if Jack was the template, why didn't everyone become like Jack and truly immortal with rapid healing instead of undying but slowly aging and unable to heal?

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[osu1991]

They were wanting to make an American version of Torchwood before Children of Earth, so now Rex is the American version of Jack and they could make a separate series with a team led by Rex now.

 

[dfergie]

Just watched, I enjoyed... like anything else, don't over think things... there are some on the net that tear things apart, enjoy the story! otherwise Bugs Bunny is just cr*p, no cartoon never the less bunny can talk...

 

[long_time_DNC]

Just watched, I enjoyed... like anything else, don't over think things... there are some on the net that tear things apart, enjoy the story! otherwise Bugs Bunny is just cr*p, no cartoon never the less bunny can talk...

LOL! True.

 

[dfergie]

To many pick apart things, I looked at some other places last night and sure enough ... lots of backseat actors, directors, producers & writers on the internet...

 

[dfergie]

Don't get me wrong, it was drawn out and I do hope if they do another series it is a little tighter...

 

[mike123abc]

Well at least if they decide to do another season, they will be able to have a quicker pace at the beginning since the band is already back together and they have established villains. If they want to have a season against plan B they hopefully will a better pace.