Sony Bravia TV's

[mwdxer1]

A lot of that older stuff was filmed on 16mm or less so it wasn't great to start with so capture to full HD is perhaps not worth the effort. Spending the time to do a pan and scan on something that so few can hope to appreciate (due to not being able to comprehend the historical context) is a fool's errand.

Probably correct. So I doubt the George Burns and Gracie Allen Show will ever be in HD . That is why I need a good TV set that will match at least what I have in SD. I could care less about 4K. HD is okay, but to me I would rather have access to an old shows in poorer quality than not have it at all.

 

[mwdxer1]

It's a shame you aren't closer, I have an older Sony Bravia 46" I bought new that you could have for free and it's in perfect working order. I replaced it with a 55" just for the bigger screen.

Thanks for the offer. If I lived closer I would gladly take it off your hands... Much appreciated. Probably it would cost a fortune to ship it... I would gladly pay for the shipping....

 

[mwdxer1]

That may be easy where you live, but for mwdxer1, the round trip to a store with lots of premium choices is perhaps 150 miles or more. There's a Costco about a dozen miles away but Costco doesn't carry the 900 -- they carry the X850G that sports an IPS display with a considerably wider viewing angle but not nearly the other performance specs.

You did your homework on about where I live. Costco is only 3 miles North of my house. Walmart is also 3 miles. Fred Meyer is 4 miles. So all are closeby. The nearest Sony Only is in NW Portland I believe, about 100 miles one way. Not a biggie, but with the virus situation, I am staying a bit closer to home.

 

[mwdxer1]

lol. i could grow corn faster than it takes me to drive to the closest best buy here. and our closest costco here has more butter churns than toilet paper. so you read reviews and ask people like us and then drive or hope to hell ups doesn't smash the sum-bitch up.

I believe our Costco is the only Costco on the Oregon Coast. They never even built one in Longview WA, 50 miles away.

 

[mwdxer1]

Upscaling SD and OTA content. This is where the more expensive brands justify their additional cost.

HiSense/TCL/Westinghouse and all the other lower-tier brands do not do well at upscaling of content.

The Sony 900F is probably your best bet for good upscaling and reasonable pricing. The 900F design is a couple of years old but they still manufacture them and the pricing is very good for a mid-tier TV made by one of the high-end brands. Best Buy has the 65" 900F for $1000.

I looked at my son's Samsung (4K) is SD. It is downright horrible. Artifacts everywhere...Cheap TV do fine in HD/4K but not in SD.

 

[mwdxer1]

Upscaling SD and OTA content. This is where the more expensive brands justify their additional cost.

HiSense/TCL/Westinghouse and all the other lower-tier brands do not do well at upscaling of content.

The Sony 900F is probably your best bet for good upscaling and reasonable pricing. The 900F design is a couple of years old but they still manufacture them and the pricing is very good for a mid-tier TV made by one of the high-end brands. Best Buy has the 65" 900F for $1000.

Unfortunately the 900 series do not have smaller screens. A 65" would be out of the question. My Den is too small. That is why I was looking at the 800 series.

 

[Jimbo]

I see there is a Sony 800 that has a 43" screen for $600. That might work. The 32" 720p Toshiba I have does okay in SD, but not as good as my old Toshiba EDTV CRT, but reasonably close. I figured at the time not going to 1080i and still getting HD, 720 is closer to 480, so the processor would not have to be as good. I would of looked at a Sony at the time, but my old CRT went out (later got it repaired), so I bought the 32" Toshiba at Fred Meyer. We had little choice around here. I liked Toshiba and the pq on SD was better that a 1080i Vizio or Samsung.

At this point, finding a 32" or 43" might be very hard to do in a TV that will have a picture that your happy with .... it's very rare to find those sizes any more, if you do find them, options will be limited.
If your wanting to stay small, I'm thinking 48" and 55" are still common sizes.

 

[Jimbo]

I looked at my son's Samsung (4K) is SD. It is downright horrible. Artifacts everywhere...Cheap TV do fine in HD/4K but not in SD.

That doesn't mean All Samsungs are crap for SD ... Samsung and others all have thier different levels of TV's, just like we talked about the Sony's.

That said, in this day and age, TV makers care little about SD .... A 4k set should still do better than a Non 4k set when watching SD ... again, better processor doing the Upgrade the better.

 

[navychop]

A 720p signal has twice the frame rate of a 1080i signal. So it’s not really close to 480.

 

[harshness]

Unfortunately the 900 series do not have smaller screens. A 65" would be out of the question. My Den is too small. That is why I was looking at the 800 series.

There are 49" and 55" sizes in the 900F and 900H models.

 

[long dog]

I recently purchased a Sony 800 series in 65". The picture quality is awesome on 4k, HD, and SD. I bought mine at Best Buy for $1200, and now they are $900. They will adjust the price if it drops within 30 days.

 

[Cheddar_Head]

Unfortunately the 900 series do not have smaller screens. A 65" would be out of the question. My Den is too small. That is why I was looking at the 800 series.

Actually you can get the x900 in the 49" size. Not as good a deal as the 65" but still an excellent TV.

 

[krynn]

I looked at my son's Samsung (4K) is SD. It is downright horrible. Artifacts everywhere...Cheap TV do fine in HD/4K but not in SD.

samsung uses cheap power supplies also

 

[mwdxer1]

At this point, finding a 32" or 43" might be very hard to do in a TV that will have a picture that your happy with .... it's very rare to find those sizes any more, if you do find them, options will be limited.
If your wanting to stay small, I'm thinking 48" and 55" are still common sizes.

So under 48" would not have the pq of some over that? I would think being a Sony, the same pq would be whatever size that was purchased.

 

[mwdxer1]

That doesn't mean All Samsungs are crap for SD ... Samsung and others all have thier different levels of TV's, just like we talked about the Sony's.

That said, in this day and age, TV makers care little about SD .... A 4k set should still do better than a Non 4k set when watching SD ... again, better processor doing the Upgrade the better.

I guess I will just have to wait until I can go to Portland. Then I have to find a sales person that can test the Sony TV in SD. Right now my 32" Toshiba does pretty well. But at least I know a brand that does offer good SD.

 

[mwdxer1]

A 720p signal has twice the frame rate of a 1080i signal. So it’s not really close to 480.

I presume you mean that a 720p signal has nearly twice the frame of a 480 signal, not 1080i. You are right as it is a bit higher, by 240 frames, about 1/2 more in reality. But it is a lot closer to 480 than going to 1080. As I mentioned by old Toshiba 480' EDTV CRT looks the best in SD, but not by that much via the Toshiba 720. I notice that some of the networks only broadcast in 720 at this point anyway, ABC, FOX, & MYTV. The rest are in 1080.

 

[mwdxer1]

I recently purchased a Sony 800 series in 65". The picture quality is awesome on 4k, HD, and SD. I bought mine at Best Buy for $1200, and now they are $900. They will adjust the price if it drops within 30 days.

Then I presume a Sony 800 series set with a smaller screen would still perform as well as a bigger screen, being the same series?

 

[mwdxer1]

samsung uses cheap power supplies also

I have never owned a Samsung, but I do know that Watmart carries basically cheap TVs. Price is their thing.
Years ago a friend bought a top of the line Mitsubishi TV set. I have no idea if their pq is as good as Sony. I do know he spent a lot for it. It was his first big screen TV.

 

[Jimbo]

So under 48" would not have the pq of some over that? I would think being a Sony, the same pq would be whatever size that was purchased.

It depends what model Sony you can find ... If you can find an -800 or 900 series, you'll be happy ... I don't think you'll find them small in those models (those are the ones with the better processors)


I just got a call back from my A/V guys ...
Sony has a 43" in the -800 series available ... its THIS years model for $599.


Best buy also has it for the same price ...

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-43-class-led-x800h-series-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/6400729.p?skuId=6400729

 

[long dog]

Then I presume a Sony 800 series set with a smaller screen would still perform as well as a bigger screen, being the same series?

I would think so. I didn't look at the smaller models.