OTHER SG-2100 Motor Bracket Wanted

[cyberham]

I know this is a real shot in the dark....but I'm looking for anybody who may have an old SG-2100 motor with mounting bracket/bolts that aren't too rusted out like mine. My actual motor still works fine after 12+ years, but the bracket scales and bolts are rusted almost to the extent that they can't be used. Below is what I need.

What mine looks like...

Does anybody have these?

 

[one_db_compression]

I know this is a real shot in the dark....but I'm looking for anybody who may have an old SG-2100 motor with mounting bracket/bolts that aren't too rusted out like mine. My actual motor still works fine after 12+ years, but the bracket scales and bolts are rusted almost to the extent that they can't be used. Below is what I need.

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What mine looks like...
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Does anybody have these?

In the absence of new old stock parts, I would treat, prime, and paint the brackets and replace the square U bolts with straight bolts. For the pivot and scale bolts, I would just thread-match and add some flat and lock washers as required to compensate for missing material. Run to outright failure.

Alternatively, if you believe that motors will become more expensive and challenging to source due to a limited North American market, consider buying a new device and paint the surfaces before performing (preferably) a one-and-done installation.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

 

[cyberham]

I agree that improving the motor I have is better than buying a whole new motor. Though I see a new SG-2100 is available from New York City for about CDN$225 delivered.

If I can clean off the rust from the existing bracket so I can read the scales, then replace the four bolts with identical new ones, this would help a lot. One bolt has rounded edges due to use. Finding new bolts with identical threads might be tough near where I live. The square U-brackets are fine as they are if I just get new nuts and lock/flat washers for them.

I will consider all of this next time I take the motor out of the system. It's working fine for all receivable satellites now so I won't touch.

 

[one_db_compression]

I agree that improving the motor I have is better than buying a whole new motor. Though I see a new SG-2100 is available from New York City for about CDN$225 delivered.

If I can clean off the rust from the existing bracket so I can read the scales, then replace the four bolts with identical new ones, this would help a lot. One bolt has rounded edges due to use. Finding new bolts with identical threads might be tough near where I live. The square U-brackets are fine as they are if I just get new nuts and lock/flat washers for them.

I will consider all of this next time I take the motor out of the system. It's working fine for all receivable satellites now so I won't touch.

For the scale position, I would mark the elevation first with a pen then use a punch to mark both sides of the track, then it matter less if your values disintegrate due to mother nature or if you paint over them.

As for the fasteners, my inclination is that the motor assembly is from Asia and likely uses commodity metric bolts, rather than SAE, with a typical pitch. I cannot see the OEM going out of their way to tool up for anything custom. I would start with the idea of a regular M8x10 or M8x15 specification and go from there. You might consider calling Fastenal in Nanaimo or Gibsons Fasteners in Gibsons to see what they have on hand and bring the assembly into the store to specifically test the fitment. I would also buy a few extra to facilitate long-term maintenance. The incremental cost is minor when compared to the aggregate value of the hassle and of your time.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

 

[cyberham]

I think this motor was made in Taiwan. I can take a sample of the bolts with me to my local store and see what they have. I definitely would buy a few extra if I find the right ones. Locally, we have Rona, Home Hardware, Canadian Tire and a building supplies store. I can do the same for the nuts and washers.

As for taking the motor to a store, that would have to wait until I dismantle the installation for some reason. It's working too well after my work yesterday to disturb it now. I'm receiving everything from 129W to 82W with good SQ as it is (even in the pouring rain). Beyond that, I can use my other 41" dish to play with outside that range.

 

[one_db_compression]

I think this motor was made in Taiwan. I can take a sample of the bolts with me to my local store and see what they have. I definitely would buy a few extra if I find the right ones. Locally, we have Rona, Home Hardware, Canadian Tire and a building supplies store. I can do the same for the nuts and washers.

As for taking the motor to a store, that would have to wait until I dismantle the installation for some reason. It's working too well after my work yesterday to disturb it now. I'm receiving everything from 129W to 82W with good SQ as it is (even in the pouring rain). Beyond that, I can use my other 41" dish to play with outside that range.

I would go to those stores in the order you have listed. The Rona website suggests they have some M8 options already in the store. Pick up some rust converter while you're there.

 

[arlo]

Evapo-Rust hands down. I wasn't a believer until I saw it used and tried it. The degree scale might just reappear without any abrasives. Black etching primer afterwards followed by a few coats of rattlecan-du-jour.
Everything now in the USA is metric. A good hardware store, Fastenall, Mom and Pop full feature hardware store will be able to hook you up.

 

[cyberham]

Evapo-Rust hands down....a few coats of rattlecan-du-jour....

I see Evapo-Rust online and it sounds good. But it doesn't pop up when I check my local stores online. They do have many other rust dissolvers. I already have a Blaster product which worked wonders previously to loosen corroded bolts.

Didn't know you spoke French.

 

[arlo]

I see Evapo-Rust online and it sounds good. But it doesn't pop up when I check my local stores online. They do have many other rust dissolvers. I already have a Blaster product which worked wonders previously to loosen corroded bolts.

Didn't know you spoke French.

That's crazy! I looked on the HD and Lowes sites and you're right. Auto parts stores have it in qt. and gal. containers.
Other products do the same probably. I know that the real thing only eats rust and not the base metal. Important if you have etchings or stamped scales. Right?
But still. A scale would mean little if you know the look angle of your dish and have an adequate length straight edge and my favorite....a digital angle gauge.
Blaster and others have their own concoction of rust (only) dissolvers. Man, I always hated using Blaster to seep into rusted hardware. I have this thing about fuel oil stench. Kroil and Deep Kreep for me.
Others here may know. I'm multilingual. I speak trash, biker, poor-taste, slang. And lay-fronsay.

 

[primestar31]

Didn't know you spoke French.

"Fra-gi-le" That's a French word... lol

 

[cyberham]

...Auto parts stores have it in qt. and gal. containers....

I found a store with Evapo-Rust: Princess Auto. The issue is it's 100 miles one-way to go to it. About a 3-hour journey including a ferry (about US$50 more). Or I could order it online if they do that except Canada Post is on a national strike so there's no way for it to be delivered. This stuff costs US$27 for a jug of it.

We do have a local Lordco Auto Parts store but no go on Evapo-Rust. The nearest NAPA store has the same jug for only US$14. What's that all about? And it's only 52 miles plus ferry.

I'll probably buy local.

 

[cyberham]

"Fra-gi-le" That's a French word... lol

"I was in Paris. Those French....they say 'fromage' for cheese....they have a different word for everything!" [Steve Martin].

 

[stecle]

I found a store with Evapo-Rust: Princess Auto. The issue is it's 100 miles one-way to go to it. About a 3-hour journey including a ferry (about US$50 more). Or I could order it online if they do that except Canada Post is on a national strike so there's no way for it to be delivered. This stuff costs US$27 for a jug of it.

We do have a local Lordco Auto Parts store but no go on Evapo-Rust. The nearest NAPA store has the same jug for only US$14. What's that all about? And it's only 52 miles plus ferry.

I'll probably buy local.

Canadian Tire has it.

 

[cyberham]

Canadian Tire has it.

I go there regularly. Evapo-Rust is not coming up on my local Can Tire website. But I'll check next time I go probably tomorrow.

 

[catamount]

No longer available at CTC in Moncton. Napa is 19 bucks for a litre and 50 for four litres. Princess auto is $38 for four litres.
Catamount

 

[arlo]

Ahh. Didn't realize y'all were Canucks in the boonies. Don't feel bad. My podunk town has 3 auto parts stores. NAPA, Carquest, and a family owned one. All of them shut down at noon on Saturday. Forget about Sunday. And recently NAPA just ain't open on Saturdays any more. So the closest chain stores are 40 miles away through the wandering roads. Equates to at least an hour either way. Man! A dude likes to have a few cups of coffee on the weekend and chill a little before tinkering on his stuff. Oh, 5pm on weekdays they close. Period.
At least in Florida where I used to live (currently 90 miles South of Buf., Ra-Cha-Cha). The local auto parts store in the little town I lived in had an Hours sticker on the door. Mon-Fri. 8am-9pm. Sat 8am-6pm. Sun "When church gets out to 4pm".

Anyhoo. That bracket don't look so bad. The eye-ripper, hip gouger bolts could be replaced easily with stainless.
What degree stampings are left would be best suited with several shots from an automatic center punch instead of hammering away with concrete nail.
I'm not Project Farm. Pretty sure for non chemical (acid, electrolysis) there are other similar performing sauces you should be able to get next to the LaBatt's distributor.
Yeah. A nice shiny brand-new bracket would be la-merde'. Lol. A bead blaster would be more forgiving than Black Magic. But it's only a bracket. No biggie. Measure angles with the motor at 0. You're golden.

The booneis has it's advantages. Clear skies and air. Deer darting in front of the Ford at night. Ticks. Slipping on the ice and breaking your back right-in-two, in half. During Covid. Getting snowed in. Trees on electric lines. Yippieee!
And the chicks with enough layers on that if they meander in the fields with the cattle. Good luck picking them out.

Vinnie Vega and the Royale with cheese thing......
And
The Merovingian:
I love the French language. I have sampled every language, French is my favourite - fantastic language, especially to curse with. Nom de Dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperies de connards d'enculé de ta mère. It's like wiping your arse with silk, I love it.

 

[goodmi]

arlo i hardy around and today i decided to look at the forum and reading your comment with the french language thing and you make fall off my chair,i thank it was very funny how you said it.