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That certainly doesn't sound like true DD5.1 on any of the Revue outputs, optical or otherwise.
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Unless he has the SAME EXACT AVR as I do, you can't compare my results to his..
Running optical out of my Revue, it shows DD5.1 on my AVR, and it sounds exactly like DD 5.1 should sound.
And, your comment about me being a long time Dish customer is way off base; I was 5 years ago, and just came back recently..

Additionaly, I have 30+ years of sound and wiring experience, spent many years doing sound work for Rock Bands in Chicagoland, so I feel pretty well qualified to comment on what is happening with my AV equipment..
You sound pretty frustrated; I hope you get your system to where you want it to be, so you can enjoy it the way you wish it would be..

Life's not perfect, technology is NOT perfect,but, through helpful, thoughtful places like this board, we can all share and hopefully learn from others, and figure out how to make the new technology work best for us.
 
wase4711 said:
Unless he has the SAME EXACT AVR as I do, you can't compare my results to his.. Running optical out of my Revue, it shows DD5.1 on my AVR, and it sounds exactly like DD 5.1 should sound. And, your comment about me being a long time Dish customer is way off base; I was 5 years ago, and just came back recently..
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Well I am not sure if it was my receiver or not, but although it sowed DD on my reciever, it really wasn't (in my case). I made sure that I was watching the exact same scene of the movie, and out of the 722 it was true 5.1, out of the Revue it was 2 channel, with the optical PCM being the only signal that allowed Pro Logic.
 
wase4711 said:
And, your comment about me being a long time Dish customer is way off base; I was 5 years ago, and just came back recently..
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That was a comment more about Dish's long history of releasing products that did not work correctly ootb, sometimes taking years to finally work correctly. (A long-time customer would be used to it. That's all.) Of course, this has become SOP for almost the entire CE industry, unfortunately. And, as a result, people accept failure and mediocrity from their products using "complexity" or "latest technology" as an excuse. We used to call it "poor quality control" or "bad design". Now, they call it "cutting edge".

It looks like I'll have to give my AVR a reach-around, and slip in a toslink, to see for myself. But, my point that it shouldn't be necessary, and should work correctly via HDMI, is most valid indeed.
 
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And I thought originally it would take the seperate L,R, Center, SR, SL stream from the DD 5.1 and place them in the right place in a 5.1 PCM stream. I wouldn't have minded that since my AVR will support that (its my PS3 setup). And I guess I didn't notice, but I was noticing my surrounds were silent and sure enough the Center was also silent. The pro logic is doing ok now. I would almost take it back had I not loaded the leaks on it.
 
GaryPen said:
That was a comment more about Dish's long history of releasing products that did not work correctly ootb, sometimes taking years to finally work correctly. (A long-time customer would be used to it. That's all.) Of course, this has become SOP for almost the entire CE industry, unfortunately. And, as a result, people accept failure and mediocrity from their products using "complexity" or "latest technology" as an excuse. We used to call it "poor quality control" or "bad design". Now, they call it "cutting edge".

It looks like I'll have to give my AVR a reach-around, and slip in a toslink, to see for myself. But, my point that it shouldn't be necessary, and should work correctly via HDMI, is most valid indeed.
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LOL@ "the reach around"!!
 
GaryPen said:
Do you really see an image quality improvement from the video processing done by the Revue?

I would imagine the video processor in your AVR is better.
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I don't think someone can actually tell a difference on a 19" or 42" tv screen. Now if it was bigger , I would say yes. I like the fact my tvs say 1080p on them using the revue. Either way I like the idea of having the revue accessible in either room using the keyboard. I can even control my A/v receiver from the computer room. I can mute it or turn the sound up and I'm in a room behind the tv room.
 
wase4711 said:
Do you know if they are starting to roll this out to the general public, or is it still in closed beta?
As soon as I get it, Ill report my findings here..

thanks!
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No one outside of a few developers and beta testers have this. As was said before, Scott got his Revue from DISH early before it was released to the public and they neglected to remove his box from the beta channel. Even after he broke and posted shots of update1 here. We'll all get it in time, but the last update that was pushed to everyone a couple days ago was nothing more than security updates which has been par for the course for at least the last 6 months.
 
Can I jump in with a question...I've been on the sideline and am now considering the revue (for $99). I'm out of HDMI ports, so do I remove the HDMI from 722 to TV and connect to revue then HDMI from revue to Monitor? How about ethernet, right now 722 is hardwired, do I leave connected or just connect revue or do both need to be connected? I do use sling adapter alot. Lastly, 722 is connected to bose 321 via optical, do I leave that connection?
Sorry for the questions...
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To answer the other two questions:

-The 722 can stay connected via ethernet, as it is now. If it is on the same network, the Revue will detect it, even if it's connected via wi-fi. And, it will be able to integrate with it, if you feel that limited functionality is worth $4/mo. If you don't feel it's worth it, you can setup up the Revue manually to work with the 722. It will control the DVR using IR. No biggie.

-If your 722 audio output is connected to your audio system, then you will want to connect the Revue's audio output to it instead, as your Sat A/V will be passing thru the Revue. That is the way the Revue is intended to be used.

However, I use my Revue as a standalone device right now. It has its own input on my AVR, and I do not run my DVR signal thru it currently. That may change. But, for now, I prefer it this way.
 
GaryPen said:
-The 722 can stay connected via ethernet, as it is now. If it is on the same network, the Revue will detect it, even if it's connected via wi-fi. And, it will be able to integrate with it, if you feel that limited functionality is worth $4/mo. If you don't feel it's worth it, you can setup up the Revue manually to work with the 722. It will control the DVR using IR. No biggie.
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Ah... I have my 722 downstairs in an equipment room and HDMI fished through floor and wall to my TV. I was assuming I could put the Revue in between my HDMI wall jack and the TV. But if it will only be able to control the receiver via IR, then I'm toast. Isn't the Revue remote UHF? Maybe I can co-locate it with my 722.
 
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