Ryan Howard is NL MVP
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May I present to you the stats of Pujols and Howard, please don't say that this forum has an east coast bias like the sportswriters of america:
Avg:
Pujols: .331
Howard: .313
HR
Pujols: 49
Howard: 58
RBI:
Pujols 137
Howard: 149
Runs:
Pujols: 117
Howard: 104
OPS:
Pujols: 1.112
Howard: 1.084
2B:
Pujols: 33
Howard: 25
BB
Pujols: 92
Howard: 108
K
Pujols: 50
Howard: 181
RISP
Pujols: .397
Howard: .256
RISP/2 outs
Pujols: .435
Howard: .247
Men on, 2 out
Pujols: .384
Howard: .227
GW RBI
Pujols: 25
Howard: 15
Avg:
Pujols: .331
Howard: .313
HR
Pujols: 49
Howard: 58
RBI:
Pujols 137
Howard: 149
Runs:
Pujols: 117
Howard: 104
OPS:
Pujols: 1.112
Howard: 1.084
2B:
Pujols: 33
Howard: 25
BB
Pujols: 92
Howard: 108
K
Pujols: 50
Howard: 181
RISP
Pujols: .397
Howard: .256
RISP/2 outs
Pujols: .435
Howard: .247
Men on, 2 out
Pujols: .384
Howard: .227
GW RBI
Pujols: 25
Howard: 15
no, absoultly not for last year, IMO it's just this year that it has been just awful towards teams not from New york I have seen. from the entire playoffs where one writer mentioned that the tigers would win the world series in THREE games!!! But you look at this years stats, and well imo and I am not just saying this as a cardinals fan, as Howard had a great season, but pujols had an all around better season even with him being injured for part of the season.
BUT, if you take away Pujols from the Cardinals...St. Louis, they are a decent team offessive and defensively....maybe contend for a wild card sport. BUT you take away Ryan Howard...well....now you are talking the KC Royals or the Pittsburgh Pirates.
I have no problem with either one but I would have given it to Pujols. Without Pujols the St. Louis Cardinals are not the same team offensively. Even when Pujols is on a slump, pitchers/managers think twice before pitching to him. Pujols deserved the MVP for the second year. He is that good.
Again, I agree...but take way Pujols...and take away Howard...who has a better chance to win the game? Sure as hell is not the Phillies with that lineup.
you just bought a new team. you can take anyone you want in all of baseball. who do you take first??? Albert? Ryan??
But now he has lost all respect for being a crybaby: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2680495
Another name added to the list of today's sports divas.
Another name added to the list of today's sports divas.
Lets see how many pitchers have lost respect for him next season.
He said what he felt, to hell with the PC stuff. He has a ring and while he would like to have both( and very well could have) Im sure hes happy with what he has.
He's the best in the game. (I admit, if Im not from st louis I would in all likelyhood
say ONE of the best)
thanks for your time this time, till next time, be good!
The Phillies had a better record than the Cards, so Howard's team had a better regular season than St. Louis and Howard was the reason for that.
Plus Salsa's comment was absolutely correct.
I have mixed emotions about this. As a Cards fan, and a huge Pujols fan, I feel he deserved the MVP again this year. OTOH, I have been cheering for Ryan and am very happy to see him get it, if Pujols didn't. I've been cheering for Ryan, NOT the Phillies. My daughter and Ryan graduated in the same class from Lafayette High School in Chesterfield, Missouri. They marched together in the band. In fact, in their senior year my daughter, Ryan, and his twin brother made up the trombone section of the marching band. Very easy to pick out that section, with Ryan at 6'5", his brother at 6'4", and my daughter at 6'3". At the time she had long blond hair, and the Howard brothers had sightly darker hair and complexion. 
One thing I am absolutely certain of is that Ryan is not the product of any steroids. His parents are both doctors, and would kick his butt if he did anything to hurt his body. They would not let him play football, but he was also excellent in basketball. Ryan and his brother were both part of a Lafayette BB team in their senior year that was nationally ranked (I think about 15) in their senior year. They ended up taking second in the Missouri State championship.
Hitting home runs isn't something new for Ryan. He put a lot of balls out of the park in high school.
So I congratulate Ryan. I'd love to see him come home to the Cardinals. Unfortunately, the Cards already have a first baseman.
One thing I am absolutely certain of is that Ryan is not the product of any steroids. His parents are both doctors, and would kick his butt if he did anything to hurt his body. They would not let him play football, but he was also excellent in basketball. Ryan and his brother were both part of a Lafayette BB team in their senior year that was nationally ranked (I think about 15) in their senior year. They ended up taking second in the Missouri State championship.
Hitting home runs isn't something new for Ryan. He put a lot of balls out of the park in high school.
So I congratulate Ryan. I'd love to see him come home to the Cardinals. Unfortunately, the Cards already have a first baseman.
I can't believe that he even said what he said. I mean why cry about it, it's not like they are going to change their minds after the fact. He won last year and somebody had a better year than him this year (Don't get into a stat throwing tizzy either). MVP is not all about stats.
No, MVP is not all about stats. Its about what you do for the team, and what Pujols does for the Cardinals goes beyond the numbers, the fantastic numbers, he puts up. He's a team leader. He said what he felt. The truth is that the voting is done at the end of the regualar season, and at the end of the regular season the opinion was that the Cardinals as a team were crap. After they beat out all the far more worthy competition they proclaimed to be the worst team to ever make it into the World Series. It isn't about how Pujols did, it was about how the Cardinals did. Howard got the award because he was the shining star on a crappy team. Pujols didn't get it because he is so good that now its taken for granted, and he was JUST a very exceptional player on a team of very good players, who hit some bumps during the season.
I don't totally agree with you on the fact that Pujols was taken for granted after being the same old Pujols. Take Bonds for instance, if that were true of the writers then he wouldn't have won as many as he did. We all know the relationship he was with the media.
Agrees ... the Bonds reference is spot on.
QUOTE=ramy;737946]I don't totally agree with you on the fact that Pujols was taken for granted after being the same old Pujols. Take Bonds for instance, if that were true of the writers then he wouldn't have won as many as he did. We all know the relationship he was with the media.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=ramy;737946]I don't totally agree with you on the fact that Pujols was taken for granted after being the same old Pujols. Take Bonds for instance, if that were true of the writers then he wouldn't have won as many as he did. We all know the relationship he was with the media.[/QUOTE]
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