This is correct also remember for these folks Primetime Anytime won't work as it requires hd locals via satellite.
Not true. I get all the major networks, CW, PBS, etc in HD via SAT, but no subchannels, no ION in HD, while the OTA ION is. Plenty of reason to still need the OTA tuner.Point taken. But for those of us who get them, not a necessity.
40 is about 1/5 of the total DMAs. I didn't realize it was that many.
Sub-channels.I liked Vivek's response regarding the OTA module....sort of like, well yes there will be one, but why would you want it? And his explanation about it not doing prime time anytime made me understand the response. I guess unless if someone lives in a market where OTA is considerably better than sat, it really wouldn't serve much of a purpose.
That too.Considering DISH doesn't provide locals in HD in 40 DMAs and with the bandwidth DISH uses for HD, some of us would still need OTA capability like we have on the ViP equipment.
If there's no guide data, then manual timers would be necessary. Otherwise, just use the guide, like it's done now on VIP models with OTA.The only down draw to ota is no prime time. Manual timers would be a must feature for ota.
I don't see anybody requesting OTA for PTAT. They, myself included, just want to be able to view and record OTA signals. That's all.I do not see how Primetime Anytime could be accomplished using an OTA tuner. Hopper is recording the entire spot beam transponder bitstream for the HD locals and then parsing after-the-fact. OTA tuners serve up a discrete ATSC frequency. If you want to do PA using OTA, you would need 4 OTA tuners and set each one to record one of the Big 4 seven days a week.
Ghpr13 said:I wonder if Dish will get a pat on the back from the big 4 networks for the "Prime Time Anytime"? I would think they would love the fact that all their prime time shows are being recorded every night. IMO, that leaves more of a chance for viewers to possibly watch shows they might have never watched before.
Ghpr13
I don't see anybody requesting OTA for PTAT. They, myself included, just want to be able to view and record OTA signals. That's all.
I wonder too if it could help any in negotiations down the road...Like when Dish was having problems with FX. If Fox wants to pull FX from Dish for some reason, then Dish just knocks the network Fox off of the PTAT...Now subs would still be getting the other 3 networks PT recorded every night. (Just thinking out loud here.)Was thinking the same, in that maybe now you may give a show a chance that you may have not have as far as setting up a timer for a show
But one has to remember the top 40 DMA cover 61.1% of the population
The bottom 40 DMAs cover 2.3% of the population
So, essentially about 97%+ will have this feature.
http://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Market_Profiles_Nielsen_Household_DMA_RANKS.pdf
Hopefully one day Dish will have all DMAs in HD.
Until the broadcast networks and local station owners accept the fact that the carriers are helping them more than they are helping the carriers, this will make no difference to them.I wonder too if it could help any in negotiations down the road...Like when Dish was having problems with FX. If Fox wants to pull FX from Dish for some reason, then Dish just knocks the network Fox off of the PTAT...Now subs would still be getting the other 3 networks PT recorded every night. (Just thinking out loud here.)
Ghpr13
I doubt they are happy as broadcast networks probably don't like DVR. If people watch fewer commercials by skipping, that's less money in the pocket for these networks. If people watch fewer commercials, then you expect them to fight for even more money from Satellite/Cable providers to make up the shortfall.I wonder if Dish will get a pat on the back from the big 4 networks for the "Prime Time Anytime"? I would think they would love the fact that all their prime time shows are being recorded every night. IMO, that leaves more of a chance for viewers to possibly watch shows they might have never watched before.
Ghpr13
I doubt they are happy as broadcast networks probably don't like DVR. If people watch fewer commercials by skipping, that's less money in the pocket for these networks. If people watch fewer commercials, then you expect them to fight for even more money from Satellite/Cable providers to make up the shortfall.
Can you skip the commercials on shows recorded with prime time anytime?
I thought I read you could not.