Questions about The Hopper?

Your wasting two HDMI outputs. Put the Hoppers in place of the Joeys and you gain PIP and bluetooth functionality at those locations. You still need only one wire to each location. The central piece in a Hopper system is the node and splitters, not the Hopper. Hoppers talk to each other over the coax through the node, no additional connections.

No, I'm "wasting" one HDMI output. One of the hopper's will feed the home theater (where the equipment closet is located). The equipment closet is on a UPS, and that's where I want the hoppers to go. As I said, this is how I'm configuring my setup an I'm not going to debate that.

PIP is not a concern for me, and neither is bluetooth.






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I'm having trouble picturing how to link joey's with specific hoppers though in the duo-node setup.

Will that be a software feature when multiple joeys and hoppers are visible?

This might not be answerable until launch.
you don't do any wiring between specific joeys and hoppers. The only thing you need to do is wire it just like the wiring diagrams and get them connected to the node.

It's the programming that will sort the relationships between the hoppers and joeys. Although i question how smooth the process is going to be with two hoppers that are not seamless.

Will the joey just connect to the first hopper available when it's not seamless? Will we have to program joeys for a specific hopper? When we turn on a joey, will have to select a specific hopper that we want to connect to in the non-seamless configuration?
 
sparc:

I get that it won't matter when the hopper integration is working. My concern is prior to this, I want specific joey's linked to specific hoppers to make sure the tuner access gets allocated the way I want.





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sparc:

I get that it won't matter when the hopper integration is working. My concern is prior to this, I want specific joey's linked to specific hoppers to make sure the tuner access gets allocated the way I want.
Depending on how the programming works though in a non-seamless system, you may not want to bother doing any specific wiring and just go with the default install.

For all we know there is a way to do the allocation within the programming. Or there may not. I don't think it's been discussed/explained how those relationships will work in the beginning where two hoppers aren't in communication with each other.
 
sparc:

I get that it won't matter when the hopper integration is working. My concern is prior to this, I want specific joey's linked to specific hoppers to make sure the tuner access gets allocated the way I want.
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Most likely, only isolators is matter for you: install those if you want separate H/J clusters.
 
sparc:

I get that it won't matter when the hopper integration is working. My concern is prior to this, I want specific joey's linked to specific hoppers to make sure the tuner access gets allocated the way I want.


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This is my concern as well. I'm thinking before integration, you would need to marry Hopper 1 and Joey 1 via a tap into the node, then do the same for Hopper 2 and Joey 2. Does that sound right.
 
Stimpson:

That's too simple to possibly be the right way to do things ;) I kid, I kid.

Satellite to Duo node.


Prior to hopper integration:
Duo node to Tap.
Tap feeds one side to Hopper and feeds a splitter to 2 Joeys on the other side.
Repeat Tap for "other" H/J grouping.

After hopper integration:
Duo node feeds to Hoppers.
MoCA network feeds to Joeys.

Sweet!




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But does that mean that we will need to rewire to get the hoppers to see each other? Will we have to schedule a truck roll?

Before integration, I want both Joeys to be tied to the living room Hopper, where most of the recordings will be, and the Master Bedroom Hopper to be by itself. After, I want them to be seeing the integrated Hoppers.
 
But does that mean that we will need to rewire to get the hoppers to see each other? Will we have to schedule a truck roll?

Before integration, I want both Joeys to be tied to the living room Hopper, where most of the recordings will be, and the Master Bedroom Hopper to be by itself. After, I want them to be seeing the integrated Hoppers.

No, nothing changes, just need an automatic software update from Dish.
 
OK, but then we get back to the question: Before the Hopper Integration, how does a Joey decide which Hopper to talk to if it can see two Hoppers on the network?
 
Benyth said:
OK, but then we get back to the question: Before the Hopper Integration, how does a Joey decide which Hopper to talk to if it can see two Hoppers on the network?

You can probably choose which Hopper the Joey talks to when setting it up.

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OK, but then we get back to the question: Before the Hopper Integration, how does a Joey decide which Hopper to talk to if it can see two Hoppers on the network?
same question i asked. i don't think anyone has explained the programming of these boxes in that situation.

Maybe Scott can dig something up for us?

my guess is that it's something similar to what isaacmorseMI posted above.
 
I think the very definition of full integration is that it won't see two hoppers it will see one big hopper and six tuners and it will all be seamless.
 
I think the very definition of full integration is that it won't see two hoppers it will see one big hopper and six tuners and it will all be seamless.
but our discussion in the last few posts is about how it works at launch before the full integration....

the joey may in fact see two hoppers when this product is launched and i don't think it was explained how that is managed for the end user.
 
Right, after full integration, it doesn't matter since whichever Hopper the Joey talks to will have access to all recording and all tuners. But it does matter before integration, when I need to connect to the correct Hopper to view a recording.
 
We'll know that one in a couple of weeks, unless some cough cough retailer posting here takes some time to test it out. They need to anyway- better to find out in training or in the shop than in a customer's home.
 
Is Dish 100% positive that Blockbuster will be available for streaming on both the hopper and joeys? I am planning on upgrading to a hopper and two joeys so that way I can have streaming on all three TVs. Also, would I need to run Ethernet cables from both the hopper and joeys for broadband connection? Thanks.
 
Well now that's an interesting question. Before BB@home, there was BBMP, and before BBMP, there was just PlatinumHD. At that time, my receivers showed the streaming rate I was getting, and that averaged around 8 or 9Mbps for HD programs. But "streaming" was more like a download with near simultaneous playback, and it still is a queuing system with only one program being downloaded at a time. Whether the Hopper can instigate 3 or 4 streams at once, I do not know. But that seems doubtful, and most of us don't have the bandwidth even if it could.
 

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