Thanks boba, but here's my problem. Due to my extreme east/north location, 72.7 is very weak, especially on tp's which carry HBO, Showtime and Encore in HD, so I get a lot of signal loss even when there is heavy cloud. (77 is invisible, but I don't need it). I get a strong signal on 110,119,118 but I only have single DP LNB's. I have a dual DP LNB for 119/118 (I'm a big cricket fan) on a 24" dish and a single DP LNB for 110 on a dish 500. This setup gives me perfect results on my 211 but I'm missing a lot of HD - I can't get 129 because of trees. It's not a huge deal, but it would be nice to get all 5 sats on both receivers. I can't understand why 72.7 should be so weak when the WA sats come in with very high signal.